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Deck Covering

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:10 pm
by VaGent
I need some advice guys. I am rebuilding a 1993 24ft Voyager pontoon boat & will be setting it up strictly for FISHING. It's a "father & son" project that I am enjoying. My son wants to put a new deck on the boat (which I agree with) but he is also talking about putting a "non-skid" finish on it. Vinyl is out of the question to the cost factor & so is aluminum. He is thinking about using a non skid paint or a product we just found out about today called TUFFCOAT.

It has been shown on TV & there are several You Tube videos on the web about it as well. It's a LOT more expensive then using a very good product out of FL that you just paint on. Both products seem to be very good but I really know nothing about either of them. They BOTH are painted on decks, stairs, docks etc & have very good ratings. TUFFCOAT is a rubberized paint & is available from several of the well known dealers "WE ALL" deal with. The other product is only available from a company in FL.

My question is has anyone ever used any non skid products that were painted on & if so do they work OK?. Any advice would be appreciated. We have no intentions of putting carpet on a "fishing boat" under any conditions so we are trying to come up with a low maintenance non skid surface that is durable & doesn't cost an arm & a leg. Would appreciate some help on this subject. PVC decking is also a "no-no" IMO for several reasons. I would go with an all aluminum decking but the cost of aluminum is out of sight & my name isn't Donald Trump. :x lol

Re: Deck Covering

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:14 pm
by Bamby
I have experience with cabela's version of the product and though it looked good for maybe a year it then started failing and turned into a ugly looking disaster. All recommended application instructions were followed including priming the wood with a specific primer and protecting the product from moisture for an extended period of time. I do know I'll never use it again with wood anyway, I'm thinking it would probably be ok with aluminum or fiberglass.

How about some marine vinyl at $9 a foot in tan or gray? Ain't a horrible price upgrade overall at $80 bucks a gallon and it probably will last 20 years. PM me if you'd like the link.

Re: Deck Covering

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:32 am
by Bamaman
The following product is available at TruValue Hardware and online directly from the company:

http://www.amesresearch.com/_Safe-T-Deck.html

Ames' products are triple first class.

Home Depot and/or Lowes are also displaying a new slip resistant product that's used to seal up wood decks. It looks like a thick paint with granules and color. I don't remember the name of the stuff. Their display showed an old highly weathered 5/4 x 6 before and after using this product. It's great looking stuff.

Re: Deck Covering

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:02 am
by bodie
+1 on the vinyl. I spend some time in the mid Atlantic area. The pontoons their have vinyl kits as the rule, not the exception.

Re: Deck Covering

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:42 pm
by Gonefishing
I had a company for a number of years that I sprayed truck bed liners. I done a number of pontoons and never had any problems. All customers were very happy. So I would suggest checking around for someone who sprays truck liner or check with the auto parts on a kit and you can do it yourself. It is tough weather doesn't bother it and if you get the right kind it will not fade

Re: Deck Covering

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:44 pm
by VaGent
Thanks for reply. Question?? Can bed liner be applied directly to a wood deck & still hold up well? Is it available other then Black? My son mentioned to me a product called Rhino Liner & Line-X. I'm not familiar with either of them but my son is checking them out.

Re: Deck Covering

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:55 pm
by bodie
I dont think bed liners work on wood....

Re: Deck Covering

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:33 am
by VaGent
I did a LOT of checking around yesterday on spray bed liners as well as non skid paints used for decks. WOW is all I can say to the bed liner spray ins. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is all I can say. I had no idea it would be anywhere near that much with me doing all the "prep" work & masking off the pontoon. I call the two biggest name brand companies & I will NOT be going that way. They "guaranteed" me on the phone the bed liner material could be sprayed directly to the bare wood & even with heavy usage would like new after 5 yrs use. REALLY??? I'd think that is pretty hard to "guarantee" when you don't know how much usage the boat will/will not receive or under what conditions it will be stored. For the "PRICE" of that guarantee I could buy & replace 6 pontoon boat decks & install the best carpet on the market & still have a little change left over. :lol3

I also called & talked to several companies in FL & WA state about a product called Kiwi-grip & one called Tuff Coat. I spent the biggest part of the day searching for rubberized floor coverings as well as non-skid coverings. LOTS of companies out there promising big results. Still not sure what we will wind up using but we WILL be using something in a rubberized finish.

Any advice would be appreciated from anyone who has knowledge about any of these non skid finishes.

Re: Deck Covering

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:01 am
by curtiscapk
VA,

look at ronkmiller's post on how he did his floor....

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15501&p=125993#p125993

Re: Deck Covering

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:04 pm
by VaGent
Thanks for the link. It was very informative & helped out a LOT.

Re: Deck Covering

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:24 pm
by curtiscapk
no problem, I just remember because it seemed cheaper and I thought it was cool. :alright

Re: Deck Covering

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:47 pm
by Gonefishing
Don't know what price u were given. Line x is better then the other company u stated. As for guarantee. When I sprayed trucks I gave a lifetime on the product. You can not destroy it I sprayed product called super liner. Cost to spray a truck bed was 450.00. And yes it can be sprayed over Maine plywood. Sprayed plenty of them. Prep is the key to it lasting forever.

Re: Deck Covering

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:16 pm
by VaGent
Gonefishing wrote:Don't know what price u were given. Line x is better then the other company u stated. As for guarantee. When I sprayed trucks I gave a lifetime on the product. You can not destroy it I sprayed product called super liner. Cost to spray a truck bed was 450.00. And yes it can be sprayed over Maine plywood. Sprayed plenty of them. Prep is the key to it lasting forever.
When I called the local Line X guy in my area he quoted me a price that darn near give me my 2nd heart attack. Try $2800.00 FIRM!! I was going to do ALL the prep work & mask the boat off too. All he had to do was wiped the deck down one last time & spray it. I guess you know who DID NOT get the job don't you? :lol3 I didn't even bother to ask about a guarantee. I just said "thank you" & hung up the phone. :x

Re: Deck Covering

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:11 am
by ROLAND
check out the thread " pontoon stuff provides materials to make my toon new"... go to page 10 and scroll down... check out what handymanherb is using....Looks great!

Re: Deck Covering

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:29 am
by HandymanHerb
I love that vinyl, it is tough, even over the holes I drilled for running wires, you still have to heat it to cut it easy