Manitou decking problem

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Manitou decking problem

#1 Post by Boileroom » Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:57 am

I have a 2015 Manitou oasis , Has the SHP package with a 250 Yamaha. Having a decking/flooring issue at a decking seam. Noticed a bubble in the teak wood look vinyl a few weeks ago, now it appears to be spreading along the seam. Contacted Manitou through a boat dealer for warranty. Manitou claims its a flooring issue not decking , decking warranty is 10 years , flooring is 2 years.
Anyone else had any issues with Manitou warranty claims or have any knowledge of flooring/decking issues?
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Re: Manitou decking problem

#2 Post by Steiner » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:04 am

Don't own a Manitou but decking warranty is typically for rot only. A vinyl bubble is typically installation error or more likely glue failure especially after five years. I know it's not what you want to hear but probably how it's going to go down given their warranty wording:
"Under normal conditions, the seams of the pontoon plywood decking become noticeable as a small ridge under the CompassHB™ flooring. This does not affect the integrity or longevity of the flooring and is not warrantable."

My folks had a big problem with bubbles in a new vinyl floor installed in their home several years ago (replaced lineoleum). The flooring place replaced it once, came back, they said it was a moisture problem, sent in a specialist that checked under the house and said they were FOS, replace it again, bubbled, put down 1/4" flooring over everything and redid, bubbled again, went out of business.
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Re: Manitou decking problem

#3 Post by Boileroom » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:08 am

Manitou has offered to replace the teak look vinyl with a sea grass vinyl, (material only) with instruction to glue it over the existing vinyl flooring. No labor on their part.
I will do the installation myself unless I hear horror stories from a few people that have tried .

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Re: Manitou decking problem

#4 Post by steve1313 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:13 am

Seems to me that if you have bubbles and lay the new vinyl on top of it could potentially just accentuate the problem.

I might take a sharp razor (x-acto) knife and make a couple of small test cuts where it's bubbling. Maybe it's just trapped air, or maybe you could get a small syringe and get some glue under it through the cuts. Might be worth a try. If it fails, you can still cover it up with the new vinyl.
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Re: Manitou decking problem

#5 Post by FLOUNDERPOUNDER225 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:22 am

I would not lay a new flooring over an existing flooring period. your adding quite a bit of additional weight to the boat, as stated the bonding process my be a major PIA, and you realize you will have to completely strip your deck of everything, helm, furniture, railing everything to do the job correctly, which probably also entails somoe underskinning removal for hardware access. at that point, you might as well strip the vinyl off and lay the sea grass correctly.
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Re: Manitou decking problem

#6 Post by curtiscapk » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:48 am

I agree with pounder!
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Re: Manitou decking problem

#7 Post by Liquid Asset » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:14 pm

If you your issue is only cosmetic and not structural I'd see if Manitou can help you with snap in carpet. Tearing that whole boat down to add sea grass is a ton of work. That said if it were me I'd ditch the old vinyl while doing that. Removable carpet could hide your issue and still be easy to clean. All this depends on the structure of the floor under it. Just another option to avoid tearing the boat completely apart.
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Re: Manitou decking problem

#8 Post by jadeboy » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:39 am

Time to trade it new get rid of it.

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