Props - Solas Amita 3 vs. Black Max
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- Doctordeere
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Props - Solas Amita 3 vs. Black Max
New 'toon, came severely underpropped. It's a 20' Bentley two-tube with a 50hp Bigfoot 4stroke. Was rigged with a 14x9 which dramatically over revs. Merc's prop selector suggests a 14x11 and maybe even a 14x13. Would just take the prop back to the dealer and swap, but we've had the boat out four times and the prop has already gotten a ding or two. Which really whizzes me off since I've always beached my boats (for potty breaks and dining) and have NEVER dinged a prop... until now.
My question is Solas vs. Black Max? I've never used a Solas prop but they're around 40-60 less than the Merc prop.
Opinions?
Thanks (in advance)!
My question is Solas vs. Black Max? I've never used a Solas prop but they're around 40-60 less than the Merc prop.
Opinions?
Thanks (in advance)!
2012 Encore Bentley 200 Cruise SE
50HP Merc EFI 4stroke Bigfoot
Lake Allatoona - Glade Marina
Heavily Medicated For Your Protection
50HP Merc EFI 4stroke Bigfoot
Lake Allatoona - Glade Marina
Heavily Medicated For Your Protection
Re: Props - Solas Amita 3 vs. Black Max
Look on ebay they have some good deals on props.
2012 Berkshire, 230cl Tritoon
150hp Mercury 4stroke
Road King Trailer
Towed with a Buick Enclave
150hp Mercury 4stroke
Road King Trailer
Towed with a Buick Enclave
- kryptonite
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Re: Props - Solas Amita 3 vs. Black Max
The merc prop is better quality and has a replaceable hub.
I run a merc (14x11p) as my main prop, solas (13.75 x 13p) as a backup.
I have a 75hp four stroke, the 11p is good for heavy loads, the 13p is about right for just 2 people on board.
With only a 50hp I'd say go with the 11p.
I run a merc (14x11p) as my main prop, solas (13.75 x 13p) as a backup.
I have a 75hp four stroke, the 11p is good for heavy loads, the 13p is about right for just 2 people on board.
With only a 50hp I'd say go with the 11p.
2008 22' Tahoe Vista Elite Merc 75hp 4 stroke
- rancherlee
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Re: Props - Solas Amita 3 vs. Black Max
I concur, 14x11 should put you somewhere in your RPM range. Should drop anywhere from 600-1000rpm off your current WOT RPM. 14x13 is going to be to big even for a "bigfoot". My 70hp Johnson has a slightly beefier gear ratio at 2.42 vs 2.33 and a 14x13 is perfect for my rig. If a 14x11 spins too high for you then you have a setup issue and it's slipping too much, it's perfect for a pontoon that's expected to run 17-20mph with ~ 20% slip.
1988' Kennedy 20' "Haley's Comet"
Rebuilt 2016 with 25" single strake outer tubes and a 25x23" straked U-tube
2003 Suzuki DF140 - Yamaha 9.9HT kicker - 39.1@6300rpm
Rebuilt 2016 with 25" single strake outer tubes and a 25x23" straked U-tube
2003 Suzuki DF140 - Yamaha 9.9HT kicker - 39.1@6300rpm
- Doctordeere
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Re: Props - Solas Amita 3 vs. Black Max
Thanks folks.
I had decided on the 14x11, just trying to figure if the Solas is a decent prop considering the considerable price break. In my decades of boating I've never strayed from the OEM props (with the exception of my tournament bass rigs) so I've never used Solas... and neither has any of my boating pals.
I had decided on the 14x11, just trying to figure if the Solas is a decent prop considering the considerable price break. In my decades of boating I've never strayed from the OEM props (with the exception of my tournament bass rigs) so I've never used Solas... and neither has any of my boating pals.
2012 Encore Bentley 200 Cruise SE
50HP Merc EFI 4stroke Bigfoot
Lake Allatoona - Glade Marina
Heavily Medicated For Your Protection
50HP Merc EFI 4stroke Bigfoot
Lake Allatoona - Glade Marina
Heavily Medicated For Your Protection
- rancherlee
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Re: Props - Solas Amita 3 vs. Black Max
I personally haven't run a Solas but I've never really heard anything bad about them. I luck out and find all the OEM props I could ask for at rummage sales as there were a LOT of Evinrude/Johnson V4 gearcase engines out there and they pop up all the time, except the elusive 13.5x15 I've been looking to try. I have 4 spare 14x13's on the wall and never payed more than 20$ for one, I like to run them on unfamiliar lakes instead of my Turbo Stainless.
1988' Kennedy 20' "Haley's Comet"
Rebuilt 2016 with 25" single strake outer tubes and a 25x23" straked U-tube
2003 Suzuki DF140 - Yamaha 9.9HT kicker - 39.1@6300rpm
Rebuilt 2016 with 25" single strake outer tubes and a 25x23" straked U-tube
2003 Suzuki DF140 - Yamaha 9.9HT kicker - 39.1@6300rpm
- hinklecrew
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Re: Props - Solas Amita 3 vs. Black Max
ive got the solas on my yammie , but im not getting the max rpms i thought i would get. i should have went up one more degree on the pitch. other than that, no problems. it tops at 4800 with me, the wife and our 4 young kids in it. shoul be turnin closer to 5500. should have looked for a 12 instead of the 13 i got.
2002 Bennington 2275 lx 22'
90 hp Yamaha 2-stroke
90 hp Yamaha 2-stroke
Re: Props - Solas Amita 3 vs. Black Max
I have the 11P on my new boat with the 50HP Big foot. Just breaking in new motor now so can't verify if it gets me to WOT. If you go to Mercury marine's site there is an area where it shows tests they have done on pontoons with various props. Here is one for a Mercury OEM 11P:
http://www.mercurymarine.com/engines/en ... 8463214402
http://www.mercurymarine.com/engines/en ... 8463214402
2011 Harris Floteboat CX 200 Cruiser
2002 Yamaha 800XLT
2002 Yamaha 800XLT
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ArkieBoater
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Re: Props - Solas Amita 3 vs. Black Max
I have a Solas on my Etec 150HP , going on 3 years now with no problems. When I used to have jetskiis , Solas was a big name in the impellers used in them.
Lake Tenkiller , OK
2009 Sylvan 8522 with RPT tubes
2009 Evinrude ETEC 150
14.5 X15 prop
2009 Sylvan 8522 with RPT tubes
2009 Evinrude ETEC 150
14.5 X15 prop
Re: Props - Solas Amita 3 vs. Black Max
For the 4 years we have had the boat, I run a Solas 14.25x17 on the 225F Yammi and run WOT at 6200rpm. I've wondered many times if I could step up in pitch if I switched to a really high end prop. I've noticed all the higher end props appear slightly thinner and sharper on the edges - some almost like a knife blade.
Kenneth & Joy
Lake Conroe, Texas
2007 Bennington 2577RFSi
2006 Yamaha F225
Solas 14.25x17SS prop
Best ever top speed 69.2KPH
Lake Conroe, Texas
2007 Bennington 2577RFSi
2006 Yamaha F225
Solas 14.25x17SS prop
Best ever top speed 69.2KPH