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Suzuki 200 outboard experiences

#1 Post by Splittoe » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:02 pm

Thinking about pulling the trigger on a premier ptx 250 s with a 200 Suzuki. No expirence with the Suzuki motor. Anybody got any reviews on them?
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#2 Post by The_Hellbilly » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:28 pm

The Silverwave boys swear by them. I drove one on a silverwave for a day. It made me realize that 200hp is the magic number that separates the big boys from the little boys. If I re-motor (instead of trade in) I will go for a 200hp or a 250hp and it will be a Suzuki. I've never seen anyone that had one with a complaint or a problem unlike the boys with Mercs.
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#3 Post by badmoonrising » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:02 pm

Fantastic engines. You'll be happy. :thumbsup
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#4 Post by 1badtoon » Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:39 pm

I love my Suzuki 250 SS on my premier grand ltd
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#5 Post by Bamaman » Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:47 pm

Suzuki's are a little different animal.

They have a very low gear ratio (2.29:1) where a Yamaha SHO runs a 1.75:1.

They use a large diameter high pitch props vs other outboards. Their drive shaft is two pieces, and it has a reduction gear instead of being direct drive into the lower unit/gearbox. They would take a Suzuki only propeller.

I've heard nothing but good about the motors. The only negative issues have been a lack of a quality dealer base and sometimes parts are hard to get due to their having relatively few dealers. I think Suzuki Marine is not half as good a company as Suzuki Motorcycles--a great operation.
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#6 Post by jafo9 » Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:37 pm

i can't comment on suzuki, however, i do feel that 200hp may not be enough for that hull. i have a 225 on mine and i've often wished i had a 250+ hanging off the back. with just my family, dogs and gear the 225 is adequate. when i load up 3 families, dogs and gear i feel like the motor is struggling at times. i'll end up topping out at about 36. don't get me wrong, the 225 is plenty for most applications, but if i were buying again, i'd buy exactly the same hull (perfect size for us) and just get a bigger motor.
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#7 Post by Bryden24shp » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:49 am

I agree with jafo9!
My Verado is putting out 310 hp and I wish it had more. The Fuel economy is fantastic, the cornering is great, but this hull is a sloutch! They are a heavy boat, the dual windshields and helms and captains chairs add an extra 800 pounds to the boat. If you are looking at this for a long time venture, max it out! A 200 on the back may get you into the high 30's low 40's.
With my stock Verado 250, it ran 44, with the burnt ECU at 310 HP, I'm at 48. 50 with a low tank of fuel and a light chop. I just helped sell another S-Series at the Lake of the Ozarks, with a 225 Etec, HO. It ran about 45 mph.
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#8 Post by prostreetnova65 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:33 am

Bryden24shp wrote:I agree with jafo9!
My Verado is putting out 310 hp and I wish it had more. The Fuel economy is fantastic, the cornering is great, but this hull is a sloutch! They are a heavy boat, the dual windshields and helms and captains chairs add an extra 800 pounds to the boat. If you are looking at this for a long time venture, max it out! A 200 on the back may get you into the high 30's low 40's.
With my stock Verado 250, it ran 44, with the burnt ECU at 310 HP, I'm at 48. 50 with a low tank of fuel and a light chop. I just helped sell another S-Series at the Lake of the Ozarks, with a 225 Etec, HO. It ran about 45 mph.
Think about it hard! If you want the most bang for the buck, pop the extra $ for the biggest you can go.


When you say you burnt your ecu who did it, any regrets or problems? I just ordered a boat with verado 250 on it and would like to have got a 300 on it but it wasn't rated for it? Also cost of doing it?

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Re: Suzuki 200 outboard experiences

#9 Post by tms0425 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:12 am

prostreetnova65 wrote:
Bryden24shp wrote:I agree with jafo9!
My Verado is putting out 310 hp and I wish it had more. The Fuel economy is fantastic, the cornering is great, but this hull is a sloutch! They are a heavy boat, the dual windshields and helms and captains chairs add an extra 800 pounds to the boat. If you are looking at this for a long time venture, max it out! A 200 on the back may get you into the high 30's low 40's.
With my stock Verado 250, it ran 44, with the burnt ECU at 310 HP, I'm at 48. 50 with a low tank of fuel and a light chop. I just helped sell another S-Series at the Lake of the Ozarks, with a 225 Etec, HO. It ran about 45 mph.
Think about it hard! If you want the most bang for the buck, pop the extra $ for the biggest you can go.


When you say you burnt your ecu who did it, any regrets or problems? I just ordered a boat with verado 250 on it and would like to have got a 300 on it but it wasn't rated for it? Also cost of doing it?
http://www.simonmotorsports.com/

If you were out of warranty this might make some sense, otherwise you take your chances.The only differences among the 6 cylinder engines is programming and the ECM's are serialized.
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#10 Post by Bryden24shp » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:06 pm

Yep! Eric Simon did the work for me. Cost $800.00 but was well worth it. He smoothed out the FI mapping, timing curves. Its alot of magic, but the result was a smoother running engine, better fuel control and 310 Horsepower. What got me was the additional hole shot. I moved up 2" of pitch, running a 4 blade.
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Re: Suzuki 200 outboard experiences

#11 Post by Bamaman » Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:53 pm

It's just a shame that the engine manufacturers cannot get 100% maximum efficiency and better performance out of their ECU programming. Even if not putting out as much horsepower improvements, they could surely put out some economy improvements with the same horsepower. Auto manufacturers operate the same way--putting out less than optimum ECU programming.

There again, they might have many more blown motors to have to fix on warranty.

I've never been above paying for a mechanic's skills and time worked, but $800 is a premium amount to charge for an ECU reflash. But it's still the cheapest way to get horsepower.
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