swappin motors.. again, this time to Honda

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Mel85CJ
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swappin motors.. again, this time to Honda

#1 Post by Mel85CJ » Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:45 pm

We are procuring a used 2004 Honda 75hp 4-stroke outboard with honda controls.

This will go on our 1994 20' Playbuoy Challenger (75hp is its max rated hp capacity).

Currently it has a 1985 (or maybe 86) 75hp 2-stroke mariner that we swapped out a 40hp for - which ran fine and we plan on selling.

The motor had been on a rental boat til 2010 - then with its current owner (on a pontoon). Owner said the rental place (Bills Marina in DCL, MD) regularly serviced it when it was a rental and he had it serviced twice a year with them also. Current owner doesn't live on the lake, but visits, so it isn't used all the time.

Anything we should be looking out for? We realize it is carbureted.

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Melanie
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Re: swappin motors.. again, this time to Honda

#2 Post by teecro » Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:16 pm

Overall HONDA makes very good motors at 12 years old unless it can be proven otherwise I'd have the timing belt changed ASAP...
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#3 Post by rancherlee » Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:36 pm

Good engines, may be a bit "cold blooded" until it warms up. Also the carbed Hondas are very susceptible to getting the pilot jets clogged if it sits for months (winter) on end with untreated gas in the float bowls. (Goes for any carbed 4 stroke)
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#4 Post by djmodifyd » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:16 am

we have a honda 115 on our toon. Love it!
You will love yours!

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#5 Post by Mel85CJ » Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:04 am

Thanks everyone :)

I'm really excited to be moving to a 4-stroke!

Looking forward to improved fuel consumption and quieter!

Melanie
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1985 Harris Flotebote Heritage 240
1994 Playbuoy Challenger 20 DLX
Deep Creek Lake, MD

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#6 Post by willy13 » Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:08 pm

Mel85CJ wrote:Thanks everyone :)

I'm really excited to be moving to a 4-stroke!

Looking forward to improved fuel consumption and quieter!

Melanie
Is a carburated 4-stroke going to have better fuel economy than a 2 stroke?

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#7 Post by Mel85CJ » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:31 pm

Good question.. I assumed it would? The other motor is from 1985ish...

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Re: swappin motors.. again, this time to Honda

#8 Post by rancherlee » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:06 am

willy13 wrote:
Mel85CJ wrote:Thanks everyone :)

I'm really excited to be moving to a 4-stroke!

Looking forward to improved fuel consumption and quieter!

Melanie
Is a carburated 4-stroke going to have better fuel economy than a 2 stroke?
Yes, hands down. Just like cars, the Early EFI systems didn't offer better fuel economy than carbs but they did offer cleaner emissions, easier starting, and didn't need "tune ups". Most 4 stroke outboards run a very basic open loop EFI system with very few sensors, much like the 80's cars. Only recently have they started adding O2 sensors and "modern" EFI systems to really squeeze the fuel economy, Such as the Lean burn system on Honda and Suzuki.
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Rebuilt 2016 with 25" single strake outer tubes and a 25x23" straked U-tube
2003 Suzuki DF140 - Yamaha 9.9HT kicker - 39.1@6300rpm

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