Hello and help please
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Hello and help please
Good morning and hello to all. Looks like a great site. Many years boating for the wife and I,however we know nothing about pontoon boats. Been reading here for a couple of days and learned a lot. Went out on a couple over the weekend and the wife fell in love with the ride. Kids and grandkids grown and gone,so no one to pull on a tube but each other ( not happening ) in other words speed is not a factor,been there done that.
As i said,wife fell in love. Should everything go right,this coming weekend we will be picking up a ,new to us, 1998 22 ft Sweetwater with changing room,sink,yada,yada . This boat has a 70HP Yamaha with a year warranty on it. The motor is a two stroke and my plea for help is with prop size. Part of the deal is a new prop,my insistence, but I need some guidance with size. Can anyone help ?
JD
As i said,wife fell in love. Should everything go right,this coming weekend we will be picking up a ,new to us, 1998 22 ft Sweetwater with changing room,sink,yada,yada . This boat has a 70HP Yamaha with a year warranty on it. The motor is a two stroke and my plea for help is with prop size. Part of the deal is a new prop,my insistence, but I need some guidance with size. Can anyone help ?
JD
1994 Starcraft Stardeck 200
1998 Johnson 90HP
1995 Calkins tandem axle trailer
04 4.0 liter SOHC Ford Explorer
98 5.9 V8 Magnum Dodge Ram
1998 Johnson 90HP
1995 Calkins tandem axle trailer
04 4.0 liter SOHC Ford Explorer
98 5.9 V8 Magnum Dodge Ram
- curtiscapk
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Re: Hello and help please
JD,
it all depends on what your RPM's are at Wide Open Throttle (WOT) You need to run it before deciding on size of prop.
Looks like it should be running between 5 and 6 K. Find out what your rpm's are now and we can help.
and welcome.
Don't forget pics!!!
it all depends on what your RPM's are at Wide Open Throttle (WOT) You need to run it before deciding on size of prop.
Looks like it should be running between 5 and 6 K. Find out what your rpm's are now and we can help.
and welcome.
Don't forget pics!!!
Craig and Paula
"THE FLOATER" rebuild Spring 2013
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94 Party Barge 24' 115 merc
Turning Point hustler 14 x 13 prop
22mph gps 3 people
12 F150
Overland Park Ks
Hillsdale Lake, KS
"THE FLOATER" rebuild Spring 2013
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94 Party Barge 24' 115 merc
Turning Point hustler 14 x 13 prop
22mph gps 3 people
12 F150
Overland Park Ks
Hillsdale Lake, KS
Re: Hello and help please
Welcome to the party. We need the above mentioned info before picking a prop. You'll have to run it to see where you're at.
Carl & Suzi
07 Bennington 2275rl triton w/ strakes
150 Honda 15x15p Enertia prop
Power assisted steering
Denver, NC Lake Norman
Pleiku, Vietnam 1971
Agent Orange survivor (so far)
07 Bennington 2275rl triton w/ strakes
150 Honda 15x15p Enertia prop
Power assisted steering
Denver, NC Lake Norman
Pleiku, Vietnam 1971
Agent Orange survivor (so far)
- Texoma Toon
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Re: Hello and help please
Welcome to the party!
Is the lake you are going to toon on rocky with tree stumps? If so then I would recommend a stainless steel prop. Hit a rock with an alum prop and it is done. Use the aluminum prop as a spare.
Like was said above, run it and then let us know the rpms.
Is the lake you are going to toon on rocky with tree stumps? If so then I would recommend a stainless steel prop. Hit a rock with an alum prop and it is done. Use the aluminum prop as a spare.
Like was said above, run it and then let us know the rpms.
2007 G3 LX 22 Fish & Cruise
90 Hp Yammy
Dual Axle Trailer
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90 Hp Yammy
Dual Axle Trailer
The proud American will go down into Obama's slavery without a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world how free he really is. The world will only snicker. - Pravda
Re: Hello and help please
Wow. Fast replies,many thanks everyone. When we were out the motor was running right at 4000 R.P.M. wot. I know that is not where it should be. I forgot to try to trim it with my wife getting so excited about the boat. Like I said,no knowledge of pontoon boats. Would trimming the motor on a toon raise the R.P.M.'s that much ?
JD
JD
1994 Starcraft Stardeck 200
1998 Johnson 90HP
1995 Calkins tandem axle trailer
04 4.0 liter SOHC Ford Explorer
98 5.9 V8 Magnum Dodge Ram
1998 Johnson 90HP
1995 Calkins tandem axle trailer
04 4.0 liter SOHC Ford Explorer
98 5.9 V8 Magnum Dodge Ram
Re: Hello and help please
We owned a 21 Sweetwater with a 60hp 4 stroke Yamaha and it had a 14 x 11 prop on it, factory installed.
It was the correct prop for that boat.
Call a Sweetwater dealer and ask them what they use.Our boat ran 21mph with the 60 so you should do better.
It was the correct prop for that boat.
Call a Sweetwater dealer and ask them what they use.Our boat ran 21mph with the 60 so you should do better.
2012 Berkshire, 230cl Tritoon
150hp Mercury 4stroke
Road King Trailer
Towed with a Buick Enclave
150hp Mercury 4stroke
Road King Trailer
Towed with a Buick Enclave
Re: Hello and help please
Hey Texoma,love your sig. 
Rock's and stumps. Well I am in lake Wallenpaupack a man made lake that runs 60 to 70 feet deep. Made over a flooded town with most tree's at the bottom same with the rocks. There are several small islands that are really the peaks of hills. Lots of rocks there.
This is my first time and first year in a lake. All river,bay and ocean up till this year,so it's all new to me. Really looking forward to the pontoon boat.
JD
Rock's and stumps. Well I am in lake Wallenpaupack a man made lake that runs 60 to 70 feet deep. Made over a flooded town with most tree's at the bottom same with the rocks. There are several small islands that are really the peaks of hills. Lots of rocks there.
This is my first time and first year in a lake. All river,bay and ocean up till this year,so it's all new to me. Really looking forward to the pontoon boat.
JD
1994 Starcraft Stardeck 200
1998 Johnson 90HP
1995 Calkins tandem axle trailer
04 4.0 liter SOHC Ford Explorer
98 5.9 V8 Magnum Dodge Ram
1998 Johnson 90HP
1995 Calkins tandem axle trailer
04 4.0 liter SOHC Ford Explorer
98 5.9 V8 Magnum Dodge Ram
Re: Hello and help please
Thanks Gramps. Good idea will give it a shot.
JD
JD
1994 Starcraft Stardeck 200
1998 Johnson 90HP
1995 Calkins tandem axle trailer
04 4.0 liter SOHC Ford Explorer
98 5.9 V8 Magnum Dodge Ram
1998 Johnson 90HP
1995 Calkins tandem axle trailer
04 4.0 liter SOHC Ford Explorer
98 5.9 V8 Magnum Dodge Ram
Re: Hello and help please
Welcome aboard the nuthouse,JD! 
Jim & Jill
East Peoria, Il.
Illinois River Tooners
2003 Suntracker 24ft Party Barge
90hp Tracker Mercury
2007 Chevy Silverado 5.3 extcab
"the Jillie Marie"
East Peoria, Il.
Illinois River Tooners
2003 Suntracker 24ft Party Barge
90hp Tracker Mercury
2007 Chevy Silverado 5.3 extcab
"the Jillie Marie"
- rbiederwolf
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- Location: Jupiter, FL
Re: Hello and help please
Congrats on the new boat.
1. Find out what the engine is suppose to run at based on manf. specs at WOT.
2. Then have the engine checked to make sure it is running at optimum performance.
3. Then run boat and see where it is at WOT.
Number two is very important. I went through the whole process skipping step two, only to find out that both my fuel filters were very clogged. When I fixed this I got 400 more rpm's than before. The engine I bought was used, but as yours still had 1 year left in warranty and was supposedly just serviced before I bought it.
As for stainless prop IMHO, I would not waste the money. As long as you know the boating area, and are careful, you will have no problems. Rocks damage stainless as well as aluminum, but more importantly they damage other parts as well due to the rigidity of the stainless prop. On a smaller hp motor 125 or less it is not needed.
1. Find out what the engine is suppose to run at based on manf. specs at WOT.
2. Then have the engine checked to make sure it is running at optimum performance.
3. Then run boat and see where it is at WOT.
Number two is very important. I went through the whole process skipping step two, only to find out that both my fuel filters were very clogged. When I fixed this I got 400 more rpm's than before. The engine I bought was used, but as yours still had 1 year left in warranty and was supposedly just serviced before I bought it.
As for stainless prop IMHO, I would not waste the money. As long as you know the boating area, and are careful, you will have no problems. Rocks damage stainless as well as aluminum, but more importantly they damage other parts as well due to the rigidity of the stainless prop. On a smaller hp motor 125 or less it is not needed.
If you ain't got the the blues, you got a hole in your soul...
Rick
2007 Avalon Paradise Elite 22 Tritoon
2008 Yamaha 150hp
Rick
2007 Avalon Paradise Elite 22 Tritoon
2008 Yamaha 150hp
Re: Hello and help please
I'm on a rock bottom lake/river. I used to go thru an aluminum prop a year on my inboard outboard boat, but switched to a stainless prop when I got a new boat. It lasted 12 years before I blew the motor without any bent props.
That said: I'd probably go aluminum on an older boat, or if the boat was 115 hp or less.
If you're having prop issues, look for a good prop shop. Buy from them and their expertise and advice is free. They're usually no more expensive than buying from the local boat dealership.
That said: I'd probably go aluminum on an older boat, or if the boat was 115 hp or less.
If you're having prop issues, look for a good prop shop. Buy from them and their expertise and advice is free. They're usually no more expensive than buying from the local boat dealership.
'12 Bennington 24' SSLX Yamaha 150
Re: Hello and help please
I don't know anyone who runs an aluminum prop here. This place is 2 miles wide and a foot deep. You won't last a week with an aluminum prop before you get a ding. After a while it gets so dinged up your performance falls off to an unacceptable level.
1974 Harris
70 HP 4 stroke EFI Yamaha
70 HP 4 stroke EFI Yamaha