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marine ply

#1 Post by clownin » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:22 pm

Plywood finally showed up today but looks like plain wood ,is it supposed to be stamped marine anywhere just looks like a,b 7 layer

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#2 Post by HandymanHerb » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:31 pm

Who did you get it from ?, it is not stamped, the main differance is the glue used to put them together and it does have a little darker look then regular ply
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#3 Post by Bamaman » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:39 pm

You should be able to count the plies of the plywood.

I would think it would have a marking of some sort on one side.
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#4 Post by MH Hawker » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:34 pm

I may be way off but its my understanding marine ply has 7 layers and regular has 5.
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#5 Post by playcat » Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:54 pm

MH Hawker wrote:I may be way off but its my understanding marine ply has 7 layers and regular has 5.
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Marine ply uses water-resistant glues and has 7 plies versus 5 in usual ply.
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Re: marine ply

#6 Post by RonKMiller » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:07 am

It should be absolutely faultless as well - NO voids, knots, "biscuits" nothing. Perfect on BOTH sides.

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#7 Post by HandymanHerb » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:19 am

RonKMiller wrote:It should be absolutely faultless as well - NO voids, knots, "biscuits" nothing. Perfect on BOTH sides.
it is A,B side with the voids fixed on the A side
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Re: marine ply

#8 Post by clownin » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:28 pm

So a side up or down ....lumber yard also told me I should put sealer on it

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#9 Post by HandymanHerb » Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:41 pm

clownin wrote:So a side up or down ....lumber yard also told me I should put sealer on it
Sorry I was wrong, B/C is used on pontoons, B side up so you don't end up wearing holes in your flooring, you shouldn't have to treat it but it won't hurt.

There are many types of marine grade plywood and the correct type of "marine" plywood for pontoon's is called pontoon decking, it's a CCA treated plywood that is rot resistant. It might have looked untreated since it wasn't green, but that's because of the CCA treating, it gives the wood a yellow/orange color. Now, I would have been far more concerned to have seen green treated plywood in the toon as the green treated wood will eat aluminum. I'm not saying they didn't use untreated marine plywood, if they did, they used the wrong type of plywood.
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#10 Post by tuned » Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:34 am

Another clue is that Marine Grade is usually much heavier than standard plywood due to the amount of glue used to make it even tougher.
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Re: marine ply

#11 Post by clownin » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:48 am

Ok biscuits down ..think I might just go with a coat of Thompson or something for extra protection

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#12 Post by HandymanHerb » Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:49 pm

Mine has biscuits on top to fill voids, so biscuits up, but you should be able to tell which side is better, no holes or voids at all.
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#13 Post by RonKMiller » Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:22 am

I can't remember where I sourced mine, but it was flawless on both sides, 100% Meranti including the cores, and kiln dried. I seem to remember paying about $70.00 a sheet. Since it is so much stronger than regular plywood I was able to go with 1/2" instead of the typical 3/4". The weight savings is significant considering I've got a 224 sq. ft. deck. (8' X 28') The shipping was $$.

It had a round stamp on each sheet denoting it was BS1088 compliant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BS_1088
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"Occasional gaps may be repaired using veneer inserts (biscuits) bonded with the proper adhesive as well as "sound pin" defects: A small knot with a diameter of 0.5 inch (1.3 centimeters) or less, but only so many over a specified area."

Mine also had no "sound pin" knots or I would have rejected it.

The deck was about the ONLY thing on my boat where I went for extremely high quality. It's a project I never want to do again. I was after serious structural integrity considering it is a tension stressed member in my build - much more than just a floor.

There are few international standards for grading marine plywood and most of the standards are voluntary. I think the term "marine plywood" is thrown around pretty loosely - and certainly there are many suppliers that produce inferior products claiming them to be the "real deal" ... :scared

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Re: marine ply

#14 Post by RonKMiller » Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:20 am

clownin wrote:Ok biscuits down ..think I might just go with a coat of Thompson or something for extra protection
That would be totally inadequate, sorry. You'll need multiple coats of epoxy, high quality marine paint with a primer base, or a rubberized, elastomeric coating in order to protect it.

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#15 Post by HandymanHerb » Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:40 am

RonKMiller wrote:
clownin wrote:Ok biscuits down ..think I might just go with a coat of Thompson or something for extra protection
That would be totally inadequate, sorry. You'll need multiple coats of epoxy, high quality marine paint with a primer base, or a rubberized, elastomeric coating in order to protect it.
You only need that if you make a wood boat and the wood is sitting in water and below water
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