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New boat, new to forum and navigation question...

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:48 am
by justrfb
Hello All,
I am glad to be here... We bought and are awaiting closing on a 2007 Princecraft Vantage 20 L with a 75 HP Merc 4 stroke hanging on the back. We live in North Jersey and vacation every year at Lake George, NY so we needed a trailer. We are the owners of a 2013 Load Rite, single axle with disc brakes, towed with a 2006 Honda Pilot. My question is navigation. Could someone please tell me what a real good "mid-range" navigating device would be for the boat as the Nuvi GPS device is to our Pilot. I am interested in having a device to navigate Lake George (and other lakes) similar to navigating the roads when we are on a trip. In other words, leaving a proverbial trail of bread crumbs so when we launch and explore Lake George, we will end up back at the same place we started... Thank you for your answer and all the great information on this site.

Sincerely,
Rich

Re: New boat, new to forum and navigation question...

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:49 am
by MPosey519
Welcome!!

Re: New boat, new to forum and navigation question...

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:08 am
by redbeard
Welcome to the group. What do you call mid-range?

Re: New boat, new to forum and navigation question...

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:23 am
by justrfb
Hello and thank you "redbeard" and "MPosey519"...
If I had to describe myself in terms of what I mean by mid-range, I would say I lean more to the simple and utilitarian side of the "scale". I don't mind spending money for something that does what I need and little more. Maybe a good example is, I drive a 1999 Ford Escort, standard shift with 126 K on the ticker for my car I drive to work... I have AC/heat and a CD player. It gets good gas mileage, I can fix or replace anything on it and it is paid for. What I would like to drive but won't because of several reasons is a much newer Hyundai Elantra sport coupe... In other words, my Escort is comfortable (heat and AC), I can listen to the Bible on CD, or music, it is cheap to operate and it isn't costing my family much... I am at the very beginning stages of learning how one navigates on a big lake, like I can navigate on the roads with my GPS. My GPS is not the big screen one with the traffic alert capability and the blue tooth connection or whatever else... It gets me to where I need to go, simply and efficiently... Sorry for the long winded explanation. I look forward to some learning. Thank you. Any comments on our boat... I love to hear what other people say who own a similar boat and engine. Thanks.

Sincerely,
Rich

Re: New boat, new to forum and navigation question...

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:29 am
by BobL
Welcome aboard.

The one thing that stuck out to me in your post is that you only mentioned one location (Lake George). I am from the south and have no experience with Lake George but if you are only going to be dealing with one location/lake, you could purchase an inexpensive marine GPS (does not really have to be marine but they are typically waterproof and have some additional features like MOB - some units have low detail depth features but not sure about Lake George) and purchase the paper chart of Lake George and key in your own obstructions. As you probably know, the main point of nav charts on the GPS is to show obsturctions, bottom contours, and depth. If you are on a budget then I suggest trying to navigate the old fashion way (learn the chart, explore the lake). I searched the net and found this:

"Since 1948 the Lake George Power Squadron has made available to the public a highly detailed chart of Lake George. The chart is printed in full color on four pages of heavy waterproof stock, each measuring 17 x 21 inches. Included with the chart is a clear plastic tube with an end cap for storage and protection. The tube will float thereby preventing loss should the chart accidentally be dropped overboard.

The advantage of this chart over others lies in the numerous water depth indications. Rocks, shoals, and other obstructions are clearly marked. Water depths are shown for the shoreline and other obstructions. Islands are labeled as public or private, and public docks are clearly indicated. The chart also provides the GPS coordinates of most marinas on the lake together with the services available at each. The latest chart revision was made in 2008 with minor revisions during the fall of 2010. The accuracy of the chart is like no other.

The LGPS Lake George Chart is available at authorized vendors such as marinas, bookstores and gift shops throughout the Lake George, Saratoga, and Capital District region. Lake George Charts © 1949, 1967, 1971, 1991, 1994, 2008, 2010 Lake George Power Squadron Inc. All Rights Reserved"

The source of this information came from here:

http://www.lgps.org/store/pc/stgeorgecharts.asp

Re: New boat, new to forum and navigation question...

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:50 am
by Bryden24shp
You can buy maps for your NUVI. Go to https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=254&pID=125130 and see if one of these maps has what you need, then check to see if its compatible to your NUVI. I have the LakeVu North Central for Lake of the Ozarks loaded in mine, Works very good!
Bryan

Re: New boat, new to forum and navigation question...

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:24 am
by jafo9
we've used a floating handheld model by garmin. i have a mount on the helm of the pontoon and on my wave runner. i spent the extra money and bought a detailed lake map. we also use it hiking. the bread crumb feature saved our bacon during a recent hike in north carolina.

Re: New boat, new to forum and navigation question...

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:01 am
by justrfb
Thank you for all the answers and suggestions. I will be looking into all the great information and will hopefully find the right device for our needs... I still have a little bit of time, I think... Thank you.

Sincerely,
Rich

Re: New boat, new to forum and navigation question...

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:05 am
by RHusak
justrfb wrote:Thank you for all the answers and suggestions. I will be looking into all the great information and will hopefully find the right device for our needs... I still have a little bit of time, I think... Thank you.

Sincerely,
Rich
Hi All..
Not trying to hijack this thread.. But what functionality do you give up adding the lake maps to a standard NUVI?
That might save me (a casual toon user) some money!
Ron Husak
Currently at Lake Havasu

Re: New boat, new to forum and navigation question...

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:35 am
by Ron Burgundy
One word - Navionics

It's a $10 app for any smart phone or tablet. At the very least it's a great backup to your GPS. It's good enough to navigate with though. I've used it to find reefs 10 miles offshore. Plus you can map out your routes from the comfort of your couch, estimate fuel needs, and save photos with gps coordinates embedded to name just a few uses. Best 10 bucks any boater could spend.

Re: New boat, new to forum and navigation question...

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:58 pm
by kryptonite
Ron Burgundy wrote:One word - Navionics

It's a $10 app for any smart phone or tablet. At the very least it's a great backup to your GPS. It's good enough to navigate with though. I've used it to find reefs 10 miles offshore. Plus you can map out your routes from the comfort of your couch, estimate fuel needs, and save photos with gps coordinates embedded to name just a few uses. Best 10 bucks any boater could spend.
I have the app, haven't played with it too much, but worked very well when I did. Let's you cache your local map to the device (stores the map area you select). That way you don't need a data connection while on the water.

Re: New boat, new to forum and navigation question...

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:08 pm
by Bamaman
I'm on a 16,000 acre lake, and it's just about 12 miles to the farthest point on the lake from home. We're fortunate that our lake is very deep, rock bottom and has few obstructions.

My navigation comes from a lifetime of running around this lake. I know the bottom like I know the houses around the lake.

I have found that with the new tritoon, I get farther and farther away from home every week.

We are interested in doing some long distance river cruising--staying in hotels and state parks along the way. When I get into that, I too will probably get a GPS unit to guide the way.

Re: New boat, new to forum and navigation question...

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:13 pm
by bassn386
Just Google "marine gps" or "handheld marine gps" and you'll get lots of hits. For reference purposes, go to Cabela's or Bass Pro sites and look up their offerings of handheld gps. There are sites out there that sell the same units for less, but I wouldn't buy one without taking a look at it and asking the same questions you did. One of the posters said they have a handheld that floats--great idea. I have a Nuvi for my vehicle, but I wouldn't take it out on the water because it's not water proof and it doesn't float.
Like everything else, as the features go in the price goes up.