Newbie questions - choosing, shopping, trailering, etc.
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:42 am
Hi All. First post. I'm lakefront on Lake Norman, NC (but not moved yet).
I tried to resist the "pontoon phenomenon" because I've always loved the look of a Chaparral or Sea Ray fiberglass I/O but it's tough to argue against all of the advantages (especially since I'm older, lazier and more frugal). I have a habit of asking too many questions in a single post or email and I'm probably going to do that here, but I also don't want to blast into a forum (as a brand new member) with multiple posts either. So here goes:
After many rounds of research (online, personal experience and talking with owners and salespeople) I have it narrowed down to one of the 6 Bennington models I'll list below (based on a filter search on their site) and a similarly equipped Manitou. I'm only looking at 3 tube models with the ESP or SHP system, power steering and a 225 or 250 HP 4 stroke outboard. I don't know the Manitou line that well yet but here are 6 models from Bennington that seem the most likely choices:
2274 GL
2275 GL
2250 RCL
2275 RL
2275 RLC
2275 RLCP (same as RLC but with port side gate)
As for engines, I'm trying to avoid the Yamaha 250 only because it requires 89 octane and I plan on using auto gas. All of the other brand 250s require only 86 or 87. The Yamaha 225 doesn't require mid-grade or premium so that one would be fine. A head is a must but the changing room is a bonus but I guess on these models the changing room IS the place for the porta-potty.
I'm sure somebody is going to ask about my planned uses. I know one boat can't do it all so I'm not going to try. I might get into wakeboarding and if I do then I'll just grab a used inboard. My understanding is a pontoon laid out like one above can handle all the rest with ease. I'm not into fishing but I'm sure someday it will be involved in a fishing trip (when my brother visits). My immediate family is my wife and I and two adult children. Grand nieces and nephews and future grand children will all ride on this boat a few times a year, I'm sure.
Pricing: I'm an aggressive car shopper. I have friends that come to me to help them get the best deal. Boats present a challenge. I understand the volume is much lower and a dealer's bread and butter is from new sales whereas a car dealer makes it from service and used sales so I'm not looking to put anybody out of business. However, I'm reading about deals where a LOT of folks are getting 27 to 29 percent off MSRP, even on the current model year (in-stock and even orders). Just yesterday I called a couple of dealers who have 2012 leftovers and they were asking $2000 below MSRP so I might need a little help on how to approach dealers. I'm not against going several states away for a killer deal but I really, REALLY want a good relationship with the local dealer and would much prefer to buy from them. Paying an extra thousand for that privilege is fine but if it's going to save me multiple thousands of dollars, I'm hitting the road.
Trailer: Pontoon trailers are big, ugly and expensive and I know very few lakefront homeowners buy them. My dock needs updating. I don't have a lift and if I leave it in the water, the tubes will get dirty and need to be cleaned. If I had a trailer I would just yank it out of the water anytime. Also, I might end up driving to Gaston once a year since I have family in VA Beach and that's halfway between us and they go there every so often. I do have room to park the trailer on my property but it will be prominently visible. Should I just get one or should I still look to renting? I saw a thread about people modifying standard boat trailers for pontoons but does that work the other way around? Can I put a same length inboard on a pontoon trailer?
Thanks.
I tried to resist the "pontoon phenomenon" because I've always loved the look of a Chaparral or Sea Ray fiberglass I/O but it's tough to argue against all of the advantages (especially since I'm older, lazier and more frugal). I have a habit of asking too many questions in a single post or email and I'm probably going to do that here, but I also don't want to blast into a forum (as a brand new member) with multiple posts either. So here goes:
After many rounds of research (online, personal experience and talking with owners and salespeople) I have it narrowed down to one of the 6 Bennington models I'll list below (based on a filter search on their site) and a similarly equipped Manitou. I'm only looking at 3 tube models with the ESP or SHP system, power steering and a 225 or 250 HP 4 stroke outboard. I don't know the Manitou line that well yet but here are 6 models from Bennington that seem the most likely choices:
2274 GL
2275 GL
2250 RCL
2275 RL
2275 RLC
2275 RLCP (same as RLC but with port side gate)
As for engines, I'm trying to avoid the Yamaha 250 only because it requires 89 octane and I plan on using auto gas. All of the other brand 250s require only 86 or 87. The Yamaha 225 doesn't require mid-grade or premium so that one would be fine. A head is a must but the changing room is a bonus but I guess on these models the changing room IS the place for the porta-potty.
I'm sure somebody is going to ask about my planned uses. I know one boat can't do it all so I'm not going to try. I might get into wakeboarding and if I do then I'll just grab a used inboard. My understanding is a pontoon laid out like one above can handle all the rest with ease. I'm not into fishing but I'm sure someday it will be involved in a fishing trip (when my brother visits). My immediate family is my wife and I and two adult children. Grand nieces and nephews and future grand children will all ride on this boat a few times a year, I'm sure.
Pricing: I'm an aggressive car shopper. I have friends that come to me to help them get the best deal. Boats present a challenge. I understand the volume is much lower and a dealer's bread and butter is from new sales whereas a car dealer makes it from service and used sales so I'm not looking to put anybody out of business. However, I'm reading about deals where a LOT of folks are getting 27 to 29 percent off MSRP, even on the current model year (in-stock and even orders). Just yesterday I called a couple of dealers who have 2012 leftovers and they were asking $2000 below MSRP so I might need a little help on how to approach dealers. I'm not against going several states away for a killer deal but I really, REALLY want a good relationship with the local dealer and would much prefer to buy from them. Paying an extra thousand for that privilege is fine but if it's going to save me multiple thousands of dollars, I'm hitting the road.
Trailer: Pontoon trailers are big, ugly and expensive and I know very few lakefront homeowners buy them. My dock needs updating. I don't have a lift and if I leave it in the water, the tubes will get dirty and need to be cleaned. If I had a trailer I would just yank it out of the water anytime. Also, I might end up driving to Gaston once a year since I have family in VA Beach and that's halfway between us and they go there every so often. I do have room to park the trailer on my property but it will be prominently visible. Should I just get one or should I still look to renting? I saw a thread about people modifying standard boat trailers for pontoons but does that work the other way around? Can I put a same length inboard on a pontoon trailer?
Thanks.