Merc 60 hp. Airlock ????

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Merc 60 hp. Airlock ????

#1 Post by PONTUNA10 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:28 am

Have 60 hp merc. On 22' party barge took out last two weekends and when the rpms get to 4000 the merc. Skips almost like it is in neutral !!!
Last weekend we worked it a guy told me it was air locked
Yesterday it only got to 3000 before it kicked into neutral !!!

Help please.
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Re: Merc 60 hp. Airlock ????

#2 Post by HandymanHerb » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:41 am

We need pictures of your set up, sounds like your getting your getting prop blowout from the prop not being deep enough
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Re: Merc 60 hp. Airlock ????

#3 Post by Hawk_308 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:53 am

HandymanHerb wrote:We need pictures of you set up, sounds like your getting your getting prop blowout from the prop not being deep enough
Find a couple fat chicks that want to go for a boat ride , make them sit on the very back and see if that helps . :P
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#4 Post by PONTUNA10 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:22 am

HandymanHerb wrote:We need pictures of you set up, sounds like your getting your getting prop blowout from the prop not being deep enough

Trim is down ran fine 3weeks ago !
So prop is in at same depth
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#5 Post by PONTUNA10 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:23 am

Hawk_308 wrote:
HandymanHerb wrote:We need pictures of you set up, sounds like your getting your getting prop blowout from the prop not being deep enough
Find a couple fat chicks that want to go for a boat ride , make them sit on the very back and see if that helps . :P[/quot


Don't do fat chicks ......Lol
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Re: Merc 60 hp. Airlock ????

#6 Post by Bamby » Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:07 pm

PONTUNA10 wrote:Have 60 hp merc. On 22' party barge took out last two weekends and when the rpms get to 4000 the merc. Skips almost like it is in neutral !!!
Last weekend we worked it a guy told me it was air locked
Yesterday it only got to 3000 before it kicked into neutral !!!

Help please.
Skips almost like it is in neutral !!!
Is it actually slipping into neutral or not? You may or could be experiencing the early effects of spun hub. Also if you're in a river there is also a chance debris may be stuck under your boat that can create a similar condition.
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Re: Merc 60 hp. Airlock ????

#7 Post by PONTUNA10 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:12 pm

Bamby wrote:
PONTUNA10 wrote:Have 60 hp merc. On 22' party barge took out last two weekends and when the rpms get to 4000 the merc. Skips almost like it is in neutral !!!
Last weekend we worked it a guy told me it was air locked
Yesterday it only got to 3000 before it kicked into neutral !!!

Help please.
Skips almost like it is in neutral !!!
Is it actually slipping into neutral or not? You may or could be experiencing the early effects of spun hub. Also if you're in a river there is also a chance debris may be stuck under your boat that can create a similar condition.

Did see a lot of debris on the lake No not in neutral ...What would cause a spun hub ?
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Re: Merc 60 hp. Airlock ????

#8 Post by pelicantooner » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:32 am

I would try putting the people with you sitting at the back. Give that a try and see what happens. Mine has done the same thing, and put some in the back and some in front and it fixes the problem.
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Re: Merc 60 hp. Airlock ????

#9 Post by BobL » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:16 pm

PONTUNA10 wrote:......Yesterday it only got to 3000 before it kicked into neutral !!!
A few questions:

1 - So is it actually kicking into neutral or does it feel like it is kicking into neutral (meaning, the boat stops forward momentum but the engine is still running at the same or higher RPM's)?

2 - What do you do when this happens? Do you stop, turn off engine, slow down, etc.?

3 - After this, do you start back up and everything works fine for some period of time?

4 - Can you duplicate the problem?

5 - you mentioned that it was not happening on previous trips. Are you running with the same amount of gas (i.e. weight) and same number of passengers sitting in the same seats?

I know these are a lot of questions but it sounds like you have an engine/shifting problem (see question #1) or a prop blow out problem (as others have suggested).
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Re: Merc 60 hp. Airlock ????

#10 Post by jrolin1 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:31 pm

The getting worse part does sound like it could be a spun hub on the prop. They are (usually) rubber and can wear out from age, load, or hitting something. You can mark the hub and prop (with a sharpie or scratch it) before you take it out and then check it to see if it moved.

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Re: Merc 60 hp. Airlock ????

#11 Post by PONTUNA10 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:05 pm

BobL wrote:
PONTUNA10 wrote:......Yesterday it only got to 3000 before it kicked into neutral !!!
A few questions:

1 - So is it actually kicking into neutral or does it feel like it is kicking into neutral (meaning, the boat stops forward momentum but the engine is still running at the same or higher RPM's)?

2 - What do you do when this happens? Do you stop, turn off engine, slow down, etc.?

3 - After this, do you start back up and everything works fine for some period of time?

4 - Can you duplicate the problem?

5 - you mentioned that it was not happening on previous trips. Are you running with the same amount of gas (i.e. weight) and same number of passengers sitting in the same seats?

I know these are a lot of questions but it sounds like you have an engine/shifting problem (see question #1) or a prop blow out problem (as others have suggested).
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Re: Merc 60 hp. Airlock ????

#12 Post by PONTUNA10 » Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:49 pm

Yes it was a spun hub ......
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Re: Merc 60 hp. Airlock ????

#13 Post by 18pontoon » Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:34 am

The quicksilver props with the flo torq square hubs are pretty easy to swap out. If you have an SS or different manufacturer, the hub may be pressed in. I have a spun SS hub I'm trying to figure out if I can fix. I've done some reading and they say you need a 10 ton press to get the old hub out...

It may be easier to buy a new quicksilver prop with the flo torq rather than find a shop that could refit your current prop.
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