Fishin Barge 22 DLX question.
Moderators: Redneck_Randy, badmoonrising, lakerunner
Fishin Barge 22 DLX question.
Howdy,
We just got a 2014 Fishin Barge 22 DLX with a Mercury 90HP Four Stroke. We took it out for some break-in time and was a bit of a let down in the performance department. According to Mercury, the boat set up should do 30ish and approach 6000RPM. We got 22MPH and 4600RPM.
The boat is set up like the one in This Test.
Anybody else have a similar setup and getting better performance?
Thanks,
Tom
We just got a 2014 Fishin Barge 22 DLX with a Mercury 90HP Four Stroke. We took it out for some break-in time and was a bit of a let down in the performance department. According to Mercury, the boat set up should do 30ish and approach 6000RPM. We got 22MPH and 4600RPM.
The boat is set up like the one in This Test.
Anybody else have a similar setup and getting better performance?
Thanks,
Tom
2014 Sun Tracker Fishin Barge 22 DLX w/ 2014 Merc 90 FS
1984 Mon Ark 20 w/ 2000 Merc 50 FS Bigfoot (now belongs to nephew)
[url=https://soundcloud.com/tom-lowry-1][u]Couple Tunes[/u][/url]
[url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/14121089@N06/][u]Some Pictures[/u][/url]
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DesertSkies/toonahfish_zpsb114cedf.jpg[/img]
1984 Mon Ark 20 w/ 2000 Merc 50 FS Bigfoot (now belongs to nephew)
[url=https://soundcloud.com/tom-lowry-1][u]Couple Tunes[/u][/url]
[url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/14121089@N06/][u]Some Pictures[/u][/url]
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DesertSkies/toonahfish_zpsb114cedf.jpg[/img]
- Cycleman07
- Posts: 306
- Joined: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:14 am
- Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Re: Fishin Barge 22 DLX question.
Its my opinion that a 90HP motor wont get you 30 but your rpms do seem low as it needs to be between 5200-6000. If it helps I had a 22' G3 with a 115 and only hit 25-26 mph. You should probably test another prop.
2013 South Bay 524E/Mercury 150 4Stroke
2011 GMC Sierra 2500 HD SLT 4x4 Duramax
2011 GMC Sierra 2500 HD SLT 4x4 Duramax
Re: Fishin Barge 22 DLX question.
Yes, I agree that 30 is optimistic. I am taking it back to Bass Pro and they are going to look it over and probably change the prop. Although, one would think they would have enough experience to set it up right before delivery.
2014 Sun Tracker Fishin Barge 22 DLX w/ 2014 Merc 90 FS
1984 Mon Ark 20 w/ 2000 Merc 50 FS Bigfoot (now belongs to nephew)
[url=https://soundcloud.com/tom-lowry-1][u]Couple Tunes[/u][/url]
[url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/14121089@N06/][u]Some Pictures[/u][/url]
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DesertSkies/toonahfish_zpsb114cedf.jpg[/img]
1984 Mon Ark 20 w/ 2000 Merc 50 FS Bigfoot (now belongs to nephew)
[url=https://soundcloud.com/tom-lowry-1][u]Couple Tunes[/u][/url]
[url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/14121089@N06/][u]Some Pictures[/u][/url]
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DesertSkies/toonahfish_zpsb114cedf.jpg[/img]
Re: Fishin Barge 22 DLX question.
Assuming that it was just you and maybe a buddy, you really need to change props and get rpm up. As you add people it will only slow down and load the motor. 30 MPH is very optimistic for that combination.
2009 Tracker Fishing Barge 21 /NV logs/90 Merc 4 stroke
2007 GMC Sierra
Toledo Bend Reservoir Louisiana (mostly)
2007 GMC Sierra
Toledo Bend Reservoir Louisiana (mostly)
Re: Fishin Barge 22 DLX question.
wed wrote:Assuming that it was just you and maybe a buddy, you really need to change props and get rpm up. As you add people it will only slow down and load the motor. 30 MPH is very optimistic for that combination.
What he said! Drop a pitch or two and the rpms will go up. Speed maybe not, but it will get you going faster and maybe speed up aswell.
1995 beachcomber conversion to tritoon with Honda 135 ,
Link to rebuild [url=http://www.pontoonforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=19016][Knot Normal][/url]
God Bless America
Link to rebuild [url=http://www.pontoonforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=19016][Knot Normal][/url]
God Bless America
Re: Fishin Barge 22 DLX question.
Are you trimming the engine up some? Or, are you plowing through the water with nose down?
I found that my pontoon without lifting strakes performed best when the anticavitation plate was parallel with the bottom of the toons. Power trim wasn't adjusted often, and didn't give any speed improvements.
The reason I ask is that 4600 rpm's are not even in the ball park of the engine's redline. You're definitely due a propeller change--much less pitch.
You might call Tracker's customer service and see if they will suggest a specific propeller for your hull/engine setup. (Some other manufacturers will talk props, and keep track of customers' prop settings.)
My last question is if it has a 25" long shaft motor on a boat with a 20" transom? Does the dealer say anything about the level of the motor on the transom? My F150 Yamaha is mounted up 3/4"--second notch.
I found that my pontoon without lifting strakes performed best when the anticavitation plate was parallel with the bottom of the toons. Power trim wasn't adjusted often, and didn't give any speed improvements.
The reason I ask is that 4600 rpm's are not even in the ball park of the engine's redline. You're definitely due a propeller change--much less pitch.
You might call Tracker's customer service and see if they will suggest a specific propeller for your hull/engine setup. (Some other manufacturers will talk props, and keep track of customers' prop settings.)
My last question is if it has a 25" long shaft motor on a boat with a 20" transom? Does the dealer say anything about the level of the motor on the transom? My F150 Yamaha is mounted up 3/4"--second notch.
'12 Bennington 24' SSLX Yamaha 150
Re: Fishin Barge 22 DLX question.
Thanks for the responses mates.
I understand the setup and the affects but was wondering if anyone has this setup and what there experiences were with it.
Bass Pro is sending me a 13P Spitfire to try which I am sure will cure the RPM problem as well as add a little speed. However, I do find it interesting that this boat is setup exactly like the Mercury test boat and I was wondering how they got the results they list in the report. I see they had a 14MPH wind which I'm sure they turned to their advantage but seriously doubt this would be enough of an influence to makeup the difference.
May take a couple weekends before I can soak her logs but I will surely share the results with the board when I do.
- Tom
I understand the setup and the affects but was wondering if anyone has this setup and what there experiences were with it.
Bass Pro is sending me a 13P Spitfire to try which I am sure will cure the RPM problem as well as add a little speed. However, I do find it interesting that this boat is setup exactly like the Mercury test boat and I was wondering how they got the results they list in the report. I see they had a 14MPH wind which I'm sure they turned to their advantage but seriously doubt this would be enough of an influence to makeup the difference.
May take a couple weekends before I can soak her logs but I will surely share the results with the board when I do.
- Tom
2014 Sun Tracker Fishin Barge 22 DLX w/ 2014 Merc 90 FS
1984 Mon Ark 20 w/ 2000 Merc 50 FS Bigfoot (now belongs to nephew)
[url=https://soundcloud.com/tom-lowry-1][u]Couple Tunes[/u][/url]
[url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/14121089@N06/][u]Some Pictures[/u][/url]
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DesertSkies/toonahfish_zpsb114cedf.jpg[/img]
1984 Mon Ark 20 w/ 2000 Merc 50 FS Bigfoot (now belongs to nephew)
[url=https://soundcloud.com/tom-lowry-1][u]Couple Tunes[/u][/url]
[url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/14121089@N06/][u]Some Pictures[/u][/url]
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DesertSkies/toonahfish_zpsb114cedf.jpg[/img]
Re: Fishin Barge 22 DLX question.
I went back and looked at the test results again and the prop they used. Whats your prop now?Diameter/ Pitch 13.4 X 15
Also they tested in Salt water ....more buoyancy.
1995 beachcomber conversion to tritoon with Honda 135 ,
Link to rebuild [url=http://www.pontoonforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=19016][Knot Normal][/url]
God Bless America
Link to rebuild [url=http://www.pontoonforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=19016][Knot Normal][/url]
God Bless America
Re: Fishin Barge 22 DLX question.
I have nearly the exact same set up. 2012 22' DLX, but a Party Barge. 90 4Stroke.
I pull 31 GPS at 6,200 RPMs. 14" dia 13 pitch 3 blade. Just me and the Missus on board, full load (35 gals) fuel.
Of course, that's on glass water, trimmed up to the sweet spot, just before the prop breaks free and ventilates. (Rev limiter is around 6,400)
I'm thinking about trying a 13.4 x 15, 4 blade for better mid range power and acceleration.
I pull 31 GPS at 6,200 RPMs. 14" dia 13 pitch 3 blade. Just me and the Missus on board, full load (35 gals) fuel.
Of course, that's on glass water, trimmed up to the sweet spot, just before the prop breaks free and ventilates. (Rev limiter is around 6,400)
I'm thinking about trying a 13.4 x 15, 4 blade for better mid range power and acceleration.
Alan
2012 22' Sun Tracker DLX Party Barge w/Merc 90 EFI 4 Stroke
2016 Chevy Tahoe
2009 GMC Sierra
2001 Jeep TJ Wrangler
1999 Southwind 34L MH
2 little Basset Hounds
2012 22' Sun Tracker DLX Party Barge w/Merc 90 EFI 4 Stroke
2016 Chevy Tahoe
2009 GMC Sierra
2001 Jeep TJ Wrangler
1999 Southwind 34L MH
2 little Basset Hounds
Re: Fishin Barge 22 DLX question.
From my own experience I would think 30ish on a 22 footer with a 90 is a bit optimistic.. but of course the prop you choose could make a bit of a difference. I'm running a 75 horse yamaha on a 20 footer and with me and the wife on board, 3/4 tank of gas and a lake that's smooth as glass, I might " might " get 25 mph.... 23 to 24 is more common..... but since these things don't have brakes, thats fast enough for me....
Roland & Jo
2010 Bennington 20 Sfi
Yamaha 75 4 Stroke
Shreveport, Louisiana
2010 Bennington 20 Sfi
Yamaha 75 4 Stroke
Shreveport, Louisiana
Re: Fishin Barge 22 DLX question.
Now, my prop is the 13.4 X 15 Spitfire 4 blade. Bass Pro checked with Tracker and they said the setup needs a 13.8 X 13. It will be interesting to see if I get near the performance BoatCop is getting. I don't think I'd waste my time trying the 13.4 X 15, it is not working on my boat.
2014 Sun Tracker Fishin Barge 22 DLX w/ 2014 Merc 90 FS
1984 Mon Ark 20 w/ 2000 Merc 50 FS Bigfoot (now belongs to nephew)
[url=https://soundcloud.com/tom-lowry-1][u]Couple Tunes[/u][/url]
[url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/14121089@N06/][u]Some Pictures[/u][/url]
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DesertSkies/toonahfish_zpsb114cedf.jpg[/img]
1984 Mon Ark 20 w/ 2000 Merc 50 FS Bigfoot (now belongs to nephew)
[url=https://soundcloud.com/tom-lowry-1][u]Couple Tunes[/u][/url]
[url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/14121089@N06/][u]Some Pictures[/u][/url]
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DesertSkies/toonahfish_zpsb114cedf.jpg[/img]
Re: Fishin Barge 22 DLX question.
Couple questions for you Boat Cop.
1. What hole is you motor mounted at?
2. Does your boat have a little 'V' deflector at the back of the motor pan?
Thanks
1. What hole is you motor mounted at?
2. Does your boat have a little 'V' deflector at the back of the motor pan?
Thanks
2014 Sun Tracker Fishin Barge 22 DLX w/ 2014 Merc 90 FS
1984 Mon Ark 20 w/ 2000 Merc 50 FS Bigfoot (now belongs to nephew)
[url=https://soundcloud.com/tom-lowry-1][u]Couple Tunes[/u][/url]
[url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/14121089@N06/][u]Some Pictures[/u][/url]
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DesertSkies/toonahfish_zpsb114cedf.jpg[/img]
1984 Mon Ark 20 w/ 2000 Merc 50 FS Bigfoot (now belongs to nephew)
[url=https://soundcloud.com/tom-lowry-1][u]Couple Tunes[/u][/url]
[url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/14121089@N06/][u]Some Pictures[/u][/url]
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DesertSkies/toonahfish_zpsb114cedf.jpg[/img]
Re: Fishin Barge 22 DLX question.
Hi Tom,
My boat is very close to yours. We have a 22' Sun Chaser with 25" logs and a 90 hp Mercury four stroke. We are running a 13.75x13, 3 blade prop. The speed is in the upper 20's with around 6000 to 6200 rpm's. The motor is mounted in the upper hole and is flat on the transom, we also have the little fins you were asking about. We always have a lot of stuffffffff on board for the grand kids and have never checked just for speed with a certain load. Hope this helps.
Jim
My boat is very close to yours. We have a 22' Sun Chaser with 25" logs and a 90 hp Mercury four stroke. We are running a 13.75x13, 3 blade prop. The speed is in the upper 20's with around 6000 to 6200 rpm's. The motor is mounted in the upper hole and is flat on the transom, we also have the little fins you were asking about. We always have a lot of stuffffffff on board for the grand kids and have never checked just for speed with a certain load. Hope this helps.
Jim
DFW
2012 Sunchaser DS-22, 25" logs
2012 Mercury 90 EFI Four Stroke
2012 Sunchaser DS-22, 25" logs
2012 Mercury 90 EFI Four Stroke
Re: Fishin Barge 22 DLX question.
What altitude are you? Higher altitude affects performance. (I'm at a whopping 400 feet)Tlowry wrote:Couple questions for you Boat Cop.
1. What hole is you motor mounted at? Second from top.
2. Does your boat have a little 'V' deflector at the back of the motor pan? Yes
Thanks
While Bass Pro Shops are excellent for hunting, fishing and camping gear, they suck as a boat dealer/service center. Try and find a reputable marine shop-Tracker dealer for service and tech help.
Alan
2012 22' Sun Tracker DLX Party Barge w/Merc 90 EFI 4 Stroke
2016 Chevy Tahoe
2009 GMC Sierra
2001 Jeep TJ Wrangler
1999 Southwind 34L MH
2 little Basset Hounds
2012 22' Sun Tracker DLX Party Barge w/Merc 90 EFI 4 Stroke
2016 Chevy Tahoe
2009 GMC Sierra
2001 Jeep TJ Wrangler
1999 Southwind 34L MH
2 little Basset Hounds
Re: Fishin Barge 22 DLX question.
Thanks Alan, mine is set up like yours except for the 15 pitch prop.
Bass Pro is sending a 13.8x13 so we'll see what that does.
We're probably a couple hundred feet where I run it.
Bass Pro is sending a 13.8x13 so we'll see what that does.
We're probably a couple hundred feet where I run it.
2014 Sun Tracker Fishin Barge 22 DLX w/ 2014 Merc 90 FS
1984 Mon Ark 20 w/ 2000 Merc 50 FS Bigfoot (now belongs to nephew)
[url=https://soundcloud.com/tom-lowry-1][u]Couple Tunes[/u][/url]
[url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/14121089@N06/][u]Some Pictures[/u][/url]
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DesertSkies/toonahfish_zpsb114cedf.jpg[/img]
1984 Mon Ark 20 w/ 2000 Merc 50 FS Bigfoot (now belongs to nephew)
[url=https://soundcloud.com/tom-lowry-1][u]Couple Tunes[/u][/url]
[url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/14121089@N06/][u]Some Pictures[/u][/url]
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DesertSkies/toonahfish_zpsb114cedf.jpg[/img]