Yamaha F200 LB prop choice for new engine question

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Re: Yamaha F200 LB prop choice for new engine question

#16 Post by Waterlogged » Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:11 am

Sorry Drago, but if you put a RH prop on a LH motor you would go forward in reverse and backward in forward gear.

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Re: Yamaha F200 LB prop choice for new engine question

#17 Post by Waterlogged » Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:12 am

Sorry Drago, but if you put a RH prop on a LH motor you would go forward in reverse and backward in forward gear. Changing the trim has nothing to do with engine rotation.

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Re: Yamaha F200 LB prop choice for new engine question

#18 Post by fasttoons » Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:19 am

Bamaman wrote:Most of the 150 hp and larger outboards we see on tritoons are stainless steel propped. Any good, experienced pontoon boat dealer would want your boat to perform at its full potential, and that's simply not with an aluminum prop.

You're at a disadvantage taking delivery this time of the year. You need to go to the lake on day one to begin breaking in your motor so you can at least check out the speed/maximum rpm's of your motor and hull combination. Your boat might run differently under cold temperatures vs. summer temperatures--and getting an opinion of a prop may be a little more difficult.

The 15 pitch Reliance will no doubt work for your prop. My question is whether a 17 pitch prop will better suit your needs--if you're a top speed kind'a guy. There are some reports of the new 4 cylinder F200 pushing 44-45 mph with the 17 pitch.

My F150 came with a Yamaha M14 stainless prop, and it was quickly up against the rev limiter @ 6,300 rpm's. My dealer was good to order in a 15 pitch Reliance prop, and it's just perfect for my boat. I'm getting 40 mph @ 6000 rpm's with my 2.0:1 gear ratio. The F200's have a 1.88:1 gear ratio.

You're thinking about paying the difference between list prices is reasonable. Your dealer's original quoted price difference on alum. vs. stainless props is unreasonable--too much profit.


I don't understand the engine coming out of the West Coast distributer. My dealer purchases Yamaha outboards directly from Bennington who buys them at large fleet/volume discounts. My dealer could buy outboards from Yamaha directly--but not at a price close to what Bennington sells them for.
Have a friend that bought a 22' Playcraft Daytona with the new 200hp Yamaha 4cyl. It is mounted on the transom in # 3
hole and he's running a 17" Yamaha Reliance Prop. GPS two people on board with top up is 47 mph at 6000rpm. The setup/prop makes a huge difference with all these boats. Just don't accept what the dealer tells you. Call the factory and look at all the motor mfg. performance reports.

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Re: Yamaha F200 LB prop choice for new engine question

#19 Post by Bryden24shp » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:15 pm

Waterlogged wrote:Sorry Drago, but if you put a RH prop on a LH motor you would go forward in reverse and backward in forward gear. Changing the trim has nothing to do with engine rotation.

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Actually, Ken is right! Depending on your outboard and shifter configuration you can run either! Most shifters have 2 cable slots to use. To swap prop direction, you just move your shifter cable end to the other hole. I have done this on almost every boat I have owned, except my current boat, because my Verado is LEFT Handed from the facory. I prefer to run LEFT handed props. Why??? Running a left handed prop almost completely gets rid of that "Port-Stern Dig" on holeshot. Crankshaft rotation in an engine causes the engine to torque to the side. Hop in your car and feel the car sway when you put it in gear and gas it. Boats do the same thing. By reversing the direction of the prop, you even out that motion. Your engine naturally torques to the right, but the left handed prop evens that torque out. If your lower unit is not Right or Left specific, it will not do any harm, because it can be ran in either direction. Its not like a transmission, its just a drive that takes turns the vertical driveshaft into a horizontal propshaft. You can really notice the difference when popping up skiers. The Left Handed propped boats will give a skier a straight pull. And when you do change prop directions, you will adjust the trim tab to the other side. It also eliminated the "Starboard list" I had on my Manitou, because of the V-toon configuration. Another bonus, You can find very nice, Left hand props cheaper than Right hands, because most sellers sell more Righty's than Lefty's, they almost give the Lefty's away because no ones looking for them.....Except me! I bought a brand new, in the box, LH Enertia for $175 last spring. Sold it on Bass Boat Central for $325.
I strongly recommend swapping them, on higher horsepower, performance applications. I'm glad this got brought up!
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Re: Yamaha F200 LB prop choice for new engine question

#20 Post by Bamaman » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:24 pm

Bryan: You teach us something new every day. I had no idea that you could change directions of the prop. It all makes sense.

I just wonder why manufacturers don't specify left hand rotation on their higher horsepower motors?

That F200 is quite a performer. Looks just like a F150 with a little lower gear ratio, higher compression ratio and a large bore throttle body. Whatever, it pushes a tritoon pretty well.
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Re: Yamaha F200 LB prop choice for new engine question

#21 Post by cwag911 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:13 am

Actually thr rt hand is what you need. There is a difference.
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Re: Yamaha F200 LB prop choice for new engine question

#22 Post by Waterlogged » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:15 pm

Thanks for the info Bryan, was not aware of that.

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Re: Yamaha F200 LB prop choice for new engine question

#23 Post by Strake » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:11 pm

thanks guys for all the inputs.......

The one that works best was a 14 1/2 X 15 pitch..... and it is RH.

Only rode the boat home from the dealer as it was only 40 degrees Saturday afternoon. It's got a temporary alum prop on and they've ordered the Reliance SDS SS prop which should be in by the end of the week.
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