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Re: BEST PONTOON BOAT MOTOR?

#16 Post by Ron Burgundy » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:59 pm

This year, the Toyota Tundra and Ford F-Series will be eligible for the AMI because both have 75 percent domestic parts content, according to current data...
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#17 Post by screwball » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:14 pm

Ron Burgundy wrote:This year, the Toyota Tundra and Ford F-Series will be eligible for the AMI because both have 75 percent domestic parts content, according to current data...
That is absolutely true! In fact, Toyota, Nisson, Honda, etc all assemble their cars here in Ohio and Tennessee.

BUT

All corporate profits go back to Tokyo where they are reinvested, not here. The Emperor thanks you for your purchase
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#18 Post by Bamaman » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:15 pm

Screwball:

I hate to say it, but Mercury Outboards, 30 Hp and less, are made by Tohatsu in Japan. Mercury Marine builds 40, 50 and 60 horsepower outboard motors in Suzhou, China.
Mercury manufactures engines over 75 horsepower in their Fond du Lac, Wisconsin.

Brunswick cannot pay U.S. labor rates and manufacture the under 75 horsepower motors profitably, so they're subcontracted to other companies. The motors Brunswick makes in the U.S. are high dollar/high profit motors.

And their 150 Fourstroke is a very competitive motor and will be a force in the pontoon boat retail market. Thankfully dealers don't charge $3K-$4K to setup these motors (like Verados), and they can be run with conventional cable throttles and regular non-electronic gauges.

Speaking on where Japanese auto companies keep their profits. Much of their profits continue to be in new manufacturing equipment, constructing buildings and expanding their facilities in the U.S. Toyota builds auto engines in Huntsville, and has a huge expansion in process. Honda's spent hundreds of millions expanding their Lincoln, AL facilities in the last year. Mercedes is turning their Vance, AL factory into one of the premier auto factories in the world, and has invested billions. The list goes on and on. Foreign companies continue to spend big, big $ in this country--from the profits they made selling cars that people want.
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#19 Post by Ron Burgundy » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:18 pm

I don't think the Emperor got much from my used 2004 50HP Yamaha purchase.

Here...now everyone is happy.
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#20 Post by screwball » Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:04 pm

WOW, Open mouth, insert foot. I really need to check my facts before I jump on my band wagon and go into a full blown rant. I had no idea Merc 'out sourced' all of it's small engines. OK, lesson learned. I do apologize for fat-mouthing all the Japanese motors, I'm old and get cranky sometimes.
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#21 Post by badmoonrising » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:22 pm

Mercruiser I/O engines are now made in Mexico as well. My '99 3.0 liter is US made. The 2006 3.0 liter in my Party Cruiser says "Hecho En Mexico" on the block :x :x :x :x
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#22 Post by playcat » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:42 pm

My Volvo 5.0 uses an American-made block and was assembled in the US of A. Go figure...
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#23 Post by Backwoods5 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:35 pm

The ETECs have a means to self winterize incorporated within the engine. Not sure about the others. Being your from the cold country, this maybe of interest. Works great for me as my rig stays stored in my boathouse over the winter months.

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#24 Post by hyper » Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:07 pm

Mercury 2 stroke is all I will ever need. there has been more of them running for the past 20 years than all of the 4 strokes combined. I love my 2 stroke! :)
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#25 Post by Just Laxin » Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:12 pm

hyper wrote:Mercury 2 stroke is all I will ever need. there has been more of them running for the past 20 years than all of the 4 strokes combined. I love my 2 stroke! :)
Have the 4 strokes o/b's been around that long?
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#26 Post by yellowk9 » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:37 am

screwball wrote:Gee, if you put a Yamaha, Honda, Tohatsu, or any Japanese engine on your boat, you can park it right next to your Toyota, Honda, Kia, or whatever. When the American economy goes down the toilet, DON'T ASK WHY.

I have a Merc. Most of the other 'go fast' boats I've had were American Powered. Parked right next to my Ford truck. They all perform about the same, cost isn't that much different so why not buy the American engine. Mercury Marine has been around for years and has alwaymanufactureded quality products.

Oh, my boat is parked right next to our Harley Davidson street bikes, and Polaris Quads. Haven't owned a foreign vehicle in years.
I think your Mercury may be made in China. I believe the newer models in your HP range are all made there now.

(NEVERMIND: I just saw where others had pointed this out to you already :-))
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#27 Post by REPETE » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:24 am

My Honda 4-stroke is by far the best I have ever had. LOVE it.
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#28 Post by Bamaman » Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:46 pm

It's nice to say that an industry is full of perfectly acceptable products--Mercury, Yamaha, Suzuki, ETEC--two and four strokes. There's something for everyone.

And it's nice to have boat dealerships all over the U.S. Unfortunately, not all brands are represented in every retail market, however.

Wikipedia says the following about Mercury engines: Mercury Outboards, 30 Hp and less, are made by Tohatsu in Japan. Mercury Marine builds 40, 50 and 60 horsepower outboard motors in Suzhou, China. Mercury also manufactures engines over 75 horsepower in their Fond du Lac, Wisconsin hub in the USA.

In other words, Mercury subcontracts their manufacturing to others under 75 hp. They manufacture larger, more profitable engines in the U.S.
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