Do you need to bottom paint every year

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Do you need to bottom paint every year

#1 Post by peedee » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:22 am

Every year when I get the boat out the boat dealer says I should get 2 coats of bottom paint. I keep it in salt water and haven't had any issiues. I am just tired of paying high prices if my paint is ok. Do you think it really needs 2 coats every year?
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Re: Do you need to bottom paint every year

#2 Post by BobG » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:50 am

What do you suppose two coats of bottom paint WEIGHS?

5 years and it sinks from the weight.
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Re: Do you need to bottom paint every year

#3 Post by Ron Burgundy » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:25 am

No it doesn't need two coats every year. The most would be every other year and you should get three years. Sounds like they just want to pad their pockets.

As far as the weight, if they are doing it right they will strip most of the old paint off beford repainting.

Couldn't hurt to touch up spots annually, but two complete coats is overkill.
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Re: Do you need to bottom paint every year

#4 Post by bassn386 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:11 pm

Sounds like he's got a boat that he needs to make payments on and you're going to help him.
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Re: Do you need to bottom paint every year

#5 Post by Todd4 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:16 pm

Put a first coat on in a contrasting color. Put the second coat on in the final color. When the first coat contrasting color starts to show through - time to recoat the outer color again.

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Re: Do you need to bottom paint every year

#6 Post by badmoonrising » Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:52 pm

Nope. I touched up every year and repaint every 4-5.
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Re: Do you need to bottom paint every year

#7 Post by peedee » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:20 am

I don't even know if they removed old layers if not I have 10 coats of paint and I can wait a few years. The emailed me back the prices for this year. I don't have a trailer so I can't bring it home to work on it.

Spring Start - $103
Bottom Paint - $320 for one coat, $480 for 2 coats
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Re: Do you need to bottom paint every year

#8 Post by badmoonrising » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:46 am

That's actually pretty cheap. The first time mine was painted, I let the marina do it. I paid $1200.

Painting the transducer ?? These should never be painted....unless they mean just the bracket.
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Re: Do you need to bottom paint every year

#9 Post by Ron Burgundy » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:14 pm

I can't talk about bottom paint anymore. It's giving me flashbacks. :scared

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Re: Do you need to bottom paint every year

#10 Post by cleatus » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:35 pm

badmoonrising wrote:That's actually pretty cheap. The first time mine was painted, I let the marina do it. I paid $1200.
If that was with 2 coats of the epoxy primer and 2 coats of bottom that might not be so bad, I painted mine last spring, it was a big job labor wise, prepping the bare logs for the epoxy.
Just trying to save a buck doing it myself, I've always painted our previous glass boats, but toon logs are a different beast.

Looking back, I would have had the dealership do it before I picked it up.
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Re: Do you need to bottom paint every year

#11 Post by cleatus » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:39 pm

Ron Burgundy wrote:I can't talk about bottom paint anymore. It's giving me flashbacks. :scared

Copper...ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!

Trilux or Pacifica...copper free and $$$
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Re: Do you need to bottom paint every year

#12 Post by Ron Burgundy » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:52 pm

cleatus wrote:
Ron Burgundy wrote:I can't talk about bottom paint anymore. It's giving me flashbacks. :scared

Copper...ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!

Trilux or Pacifica...copper free and $$$

That's what I have on the hulls now. Unfortunately, the previous owner did not.
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Re: Do you need to bottom paint every year

#13 Post by cleatus » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:00 pm

did the logs pit, or did the barrier coat prevent that?
did you have to strip the previous paint?

bummer.
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Re: Do you need to bottom paint every year

#14 Post by badmoonrising » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:04 pm

I've seen a few 'toons turned to swiss cheese when some dumb ass used copper. One guy in here a few years back bought a 'toon that leaked like a sieve and we all told him to take it back to his dealer.

He never posted if he did or not :donno

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Re: Do you need to bottom paint every year

#15 Post by Ron Burgundy » Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:24 pm

cleatus wrote:did the logs pit, or did the barrier coat prevent that?
did you have to strip the previous paint?

bummer.
Worse than pitting I actually had a few spots that had to be welded with a patch. The previous owner used a copper based paint desifned for fiberglass boats. It had to all be removed, patched weak and pitted areas, two base coats of primer, and then two coats of trilux 33.
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