Putting the South Bay up for sale

[ronb]

Before we bought our pontoon my wife said
"There are Horse people or there are Boat people"
Well last Summer we built a new 42x60 Morton pole barn and last Fall my wife bought a 9month old filly. I guess we are going to be horse people.

When you guys decide to depart with your toons, how do you go about getting a price set?

I know what my loan value is.
I've looked up nadaguides valuation.
I've attached a picture of the screenshot, of that price. Their estimated average retail is just under $26,000, and low retail is just under $23,000. I don't know what Suggested List Price is, but if somebody wants to buy it from me for $34k... I'm going to sell it today

They are a bit high on the trailer value, but everything else seems like it is inline with the value from when we bought it.
The good news is that even their 'low retail' is higher than my loan balance. (which includes the trailer). We had some initial money that we put down when we bought it.

Is there another preferred website for getting prices? I thought there was one where you looked up each component (pontoon/motor/trailer) separately?

I'd like to get my highest return (wouldn't we all) without scaring off to many prospective buyers.

I've got about a billion pictures of it, these are just the ones without people in them..
http://s689.photobucket.com/user/phl3gm ... t=3&page=1

We had to replace the powerhead the first summer we had it, less than a month after signing the paperwork
http://s689.photobucket.com/user/phl3gm ... 2090%20DFI

well mostly without people.. I'm the big guy.. we had these cracked decals replaced last summer, the irritated us too much. We only replaced the sun faded/cracked ones. I built the ski/tube pull bar, it has worked perfectly.
http://s689.photobucket.com/user/phl3gm ... 0Ski%20Bar

I know I haven't' been the most active participant on this forum, but when winter lasts 8 months a year, its hard to get too involved... which is yet another factor in why we decided to sell.

I've already been ordered to keep my eyes open for our next pontoon. Something less extravagant. I think she wants a camping net surround with double bimini, a pair of hammocks, and a beer fridge...

Thanks guys,
-ron

[Traillblazer]

I bought my brand new 525 with a 115 4 stroke, sport tune (tritoon) and underskinned for 32k out the door. I bought new because I could not find a descent used one within 150 mile. And when I did the price was sky high. The demand is up for newer pontoons. I would say start at 25-26 and go from there. I will have to look mine up to see what they say its worth.

[woolznaz]

I'm not sure if this is helpful or not, but I'll throw it out there anyway. I have an '07 South Bay 925. I have a pretty good feel for what it would bring if I sold it today. If I take the NADA value of the boat, plus the motor, plus the trailer, it is a pretty good representation of what it would bring. That is ignoring ALL options -- completely ignoring them. I would love to think it would bring the total value when I "click" all of the included options on NADA (which adds several thousand more $), but I just cannot imagine it would.

To support this theory, for the last several years I have bought one additional boat each year to take on a vacation to Lake of the Ozarks. I look around and find a decent deal on a boat that will fit our needs. We buy it, haul it to LOTO, then we use it for about 8 days. We then sell it at Lake of the Ozarks. The same has proven to be true with that little boat buy/sell experiment we do each year. We can get about average retail, NOT including the options, when we sell it.

Best of luck with your sale.

[ronb]

woolie.. wanna trade?

I think the rumble of a V8 would entice my wife to keep it another few years..

But if I'm understanding correctly you are saying just take the straight numbers from the average retail or the low retail?

Average
15,900 + 3,910 + 3495 = $23,305
Low
13,910+ 3,480 + 3110 = $20,500

FWIW, my wife and I decided since we don't really need to sell it, we were going to start at $22,500. We do have some neighbors that we like and are going to offer it to them for the remainder of the loan amount.

After the first year of owning this one, we knew that eventually when the kids were bigger we would trade in this one for one with more HP (like your 925 -- wife likes the I/O v8's), but with the addition of the barn and baby horse, my wife wants to concentrate on that for a couple years (as the first few years of a horses life/training are the most formidable).

[ronb]

woolznaz,
Right after I hit submit, I read your signature, didn't realize you had one of those dreaded powerstrokes (6.0L) and that Armarillo is a rare option package (only released in the SouthWest IIRC) Last year after my previous Daily Driver was t-boned, I picked up a 2005 F250/Lariat/FX4 6.0, been loving every minute of it, 22k miles since I bought it.

It pulls the pontoon very nicely on the bunk trailer, never loses speed, goes as fast as I ask it to.
Go it can, drink diesel it will...
It is on a tandem trailer that will handle up to a 25ft boat. The whole rig is right at 50ft long from front bumper to prop.

Which brings me to something very important that my Mom passed on to me.
"Never haul a boat that is smaller than the tow vehicle."
The truck is 20ft long from bumper to bumper.. the picture may have a little bit of optical magic going on, I was standing fairly close and used an iPhone with panoramic mode.

[woolznaz]

RonB,
I meant average retail, not low. I'm far from an expert but I thought I would share what I have experienced in the last few boats I have sold. You may do better than I did, but that has been my experience. All 4 of the boats I have sold in the past few years were very clean and they each held up at that average retail number, without adding in the options. Maybe I left money on the table...... I wouldn't put it past me. All 4 were very clean, showed very well, and the first looker bought the boat in all 4 cases. That sounds nice, but it probably does mean I did leave $ on the table.

On the V8 in the South Bay, I have to say I have been quite happy with it. It's not a huge, high performance engine, but it performs as well as we need it to and has been a great, trouble free motor so far. Knock on wood! We bought it used and I feel lucky to have found something that was almost exactly what I was looking for. We have had it since 2010 and plan to keep it for the foreseeable future.

Your picture looks familiar with the toon and the F250. That's about what my combination looks like going down the road. As for the Amarillo, I do love it. I did not know it was regional only. I know they only made them in 2006, and all are equipped pretty heavily. I was not looking for yellow when I found it, but I liked the deal so I bought it. I was not happy with the color or the look of it, but within about a week I started to just love it. Now, I truly love the look of the truck, too. Unfortunately, I may be getting a different vehicle soon and it will mean I will sell the Amarillo. I'm having a hard time with that...... as I just love the truck now, so I am stalling on the change. I'll miss that truck if I do this, so I'm considering other options.

Good luck on your sale!

[ronb]

If/When you get ready to sell it, let me know. I personally don't want it, but the guys over at powerstroke.org love the heck out of them.

Before you part with your 6.0, do some research.. 2008+ have DPF (diesel particulate filter) systems that cause high fuel usage to superheat the exhaust to clean the filter, also they have multi-firing HEUI (Hydraulic Electric Unit Injectors), that can fire up to 30 times per cycle that have a higher failure rate.

I test drove a 2008 F250 King Ranch 3/4t 6.4, it rode a lot smoother than my 2005, and the dual turbo setup build pressure at lower RPMs and it accelerated a lot nicer. I just couldn't justify $38k for a 5yr old truck when I could have bought a brand new 2013 F350 (XL/CC/SB/6.7L) straight from the lot for $44k.

I plan on keeping mine long term, I've even started building parts for it.

So far, just a 6.0/6.4L head pulling bracket.
But I'm working on two different engine lifting brackets (so I don't have to pull the cab to do engine work)
EGR delete plug (machined shaft, plasma cut steel plate)
Later this summer I'll be making myself some traction bars and probably some tubular steps that sit a little closer to the body.

I also hope to get my 2004 up pipe installed along with a billet single plane wheel and a PHP (Gryphon) FICM programmer.

In case I never mentioned this, I come from people who love their cars, we love driving the, we love fixing them, we love 'improving' them, we love breaking them... and that may be one reason that I am not as into boats as the rest of y'all. I'm afraid to make changes to the motor, can't make too many changes to the chassis, the 'interior' is darn near a 'fixed asset'. I'm just not used to the 'get in it and drive it' vehicles...