Power pontoon ladder

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Re: Power pontoon ladder

#16 Post by lightpants » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:56 am

NH Tooner wrote:I called CMC and they said they havent made those ladders in over 8 years. :donno

It was just a small not on their website. It said something like "The last new power ladder available" "We found this in our warehouse" But, if you called, it is probably gone. I wonder why they stopped making them?
Jim
97 Fisher Freedom 240 - 09 Optimax 115 - added 3rd pontoon with lifting strakes
former Pontoon Water Glide Owner (5+ years, on 2 different boats)

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Re: Power pontoon ladder

#17 Post by sweetmelissacharters » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:13 pm

I have the power ladder on my pontoon. This past weekend it went down but didn't go back up. Any idea's what could be wrong. Is it low on fluid. I lost my book and I believe this takes special fluid to fill it.
Can someone email me the manual if you have it still. Please send to : sweetmelissacharters@gmail.com or mikef@tritowertelecom.com

It makes the noise going down but upon reversing it to bring it back up it does not do anything or make a sound? Any help on this issue is much appreciated.

Here is the model I have: Cook Manufacturing - 9300, Ladders, Pontoon Ladders, Cook Manufacturing Power Pontoon Ladder 9300 - FirstChoiceMarine.com
http://www.firstchoicemarine.com/p-1420 ... -9300.aspx

Does anyone know where to buy these from. I bought mine off ebay 5-6 years ago and it was the best investment I made for the boat.

Thanks,

Mike Fiorentino
585-905-6252

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Re: Power pontoon ladder

#18 Post by tuned » Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:33 pm

sweetmelissacharters wrote:I have the power ladder on my pontoon. This past weekend it went down but didn't go back up. Any idea's what could be wrong. Is it low on fluid. I lost my book and I believe this takes special fluid to fill it.
Can someone email me the manual if you have it still. Please send to : sweetmelissacharters@gmail.com or mikef@tritowertelecom.com

It makes the noise going down but upon reversing it to bring it back up it does not do anything or make a sound? Any help on this issue is much appreciated.

Here is the model I have: Cook Manufacturing - 9300, Ladders, Pontoon Ladders, Cook Manufacturing Power Pontoon Ladder 9300 - FirstChoiceMarine.com
http://www.firstchoicemarine.com/p-1420 ... -9300.aspx

Does anyone know where to buy these from. I bought mine off ebay 5-6 years ago and it was the best investment I made for the boat.

Thanks,

Mike Fiorentino
585-905-6252
Hey Mike,
Although this thread is several years old, I might be able to help you out. I did indeed manage to shoehorn a CMC Power Ladder between the tubes of my triple. I found it on Craigslist, needing work. After replacing the actuator and slightly modifying the mount, in she went. As someone suggested, there was no splash and noise. I LOVE it!

As far as your problem goes, I am working only from memory here. There are only three main components to the system--the actuator, the relay and the control switch. It sounds to me as if your relay may not be sending power out. You should be able to test the whole system at that relay.

Without looking at mine, there should be two heavy wires FEEDING the relay and two heavy wires heading forward to the ladder. That is where I would start. You should hear a click at the relay in both directions and the two OUT wires should read 12VDC or -12VDC respectively.

If you are sending voltage, then I would start looking at the actuator. It does need to be full of fluid. I seem to recall thinking that it was going to suck checking fluid, because the actuator needs to be vertical to be checked and filled. This would require taking the damn ladder or actuator right off to do this.

This could be a semi-painful process, but well worth it. I am pretty sure that I have notes and schematics that I wrote up myself back then. If you continue to struggle, I can try to dig them out for you.

Good luck, Captain
ToddBob
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Re: Power pontoon ladder

#19 Post by tuned » Fri Jul 03, 2015 6:51 am

I found at least some of my notes. These may help others as well. Bear in mind that CMC no longer makes these and has none in stock. I talked to a rep and they said that there just wasn't a robust enough market for them.
I believe that I got my replacement actuator from them (can't find the paperwork), as they use these on other items.

Here are the notes that I wrote up:

QUICK CARD FOR CMC POWER LADDER
Actuator service with plunger down and wire coupler up.
3/16 Hex screw on top for fill, and one on side for ‘level’
Use 20 or 30 weight NON-DETERGENT motor oil only
RETRACT actuator fully to check level and top off.
Stroke actuator a couple of times only on fresh fill.
Replace side level plug.
Run actuator out an inch or more BEFORE replacing top fill plug.
EMERGENCY RELEASE-1/4 bolt head on ‘rod end’ of actuator
Open no more than a turn
Circuit breaker on power wire-manual reset button


Here is a shot of the schematic:
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I have the PDF of this but couldn't figure out how to post it.
ToddBob
'Al the Mirthmaker' (The Third)
Build-- viewtopic.php?f=16&t=14007
Rainy Lake/Voyageurs National Park
International Falls, MN

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