Large Hp tritoon questions

[Bryden24shp]

Ya have to wonder how much one of those things is going to cost Bryan.

I'm gonna guess.... $105K to 115K on a Legacy or Xplode and 130K to 145K on a new XT Xplode.
Based on the retail of my Legacy...
I'll find out, how soon do you want it, JT?

Actually Bryan, as bad as I need to sell mine. Im hoping it dont sell until after that Shoot out now. I think I want to try a 3 blade, 27-29 pitch prop, maybe some race fuel, add some timing, and lean it out just a tad. If I could afford to keep my Tuuune, I would do that vs buy a new one. Last year was the first year we actually have everything tuned perfect.

I'm hoping you find a way that you can keep it, JT. For all the excellent and hard work you have put into it. It deserves to be in your hands only, Buddy.

[pond tuuunes]

Thanks Bryan

[Toonnut86]

If anyone's looking for a inboard Bennington?


2009 Bennington Tritoon
http://morgantown.craigslist.org/boa/5544188481.html

[fasttoons]

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/bod/5578329201.html

Hate to say it but the I/O would be lucky to hit 50mph. It's also hard to work on.

[fasttoons]

This was for sale at the Columbia, SC boat show in February. Not sure where it is now, what it was selling for or how fast it was.

Playcraft X-treme 2800 w/ TWIN Mercury 400R Verado's

It's still for sale....I think right around 149k which isn't bad if you consider what the cost is for just the motors.

Talked to the owner- 75-low 80's according to set up and conditions

[fasttoons]

If all you need is 50mph, there are a few 22-23' tri-toons that will scratch that mark with only 200hp on the back with proper setup. 250hp seems to be the sweet spot and the most widely available on the used market for BIG hp engines. The Suzuki 250ss and Yamaha 250sho are both ever so slightly de-tuned 300hp engines and they both have a solid reputation and you could go the Etec route but Earlier 250ho and 300's had quite a few issues. A great forum to check out engines on is Thehulltruth.com, them Saltwater boys really abuse these engines and rack up hours.

Yeah I know the new Playcraft daytona's run 50's out of the box and a couple others, but I like the idea of a 25-28ft boat we have a 22ft now and I seem to always be running out of room, it's fine for me my wife and the dogs but bring my siblings nieces and nephews aboard and I've automatically turned my boat into a slug and spend the majority of my time telling people where to sit so the boat doesn't lean one way or another... And we love inviting all of our friends and family out to boat with us. I like the idea of a inboard but my past experience left crickets in my wallet... Mainly because I bought someone else's problem. I'm honestly looking for opinions from the guys who have had the bigger hp toons and have had either issues or no issues?

Out of the box stock Daytona 22' over 59mph GPS with 250hp ProXS.

[fasttoons]

I can email you pics and videos that are to big to post here. I have a big block pontoon for sale. Its also posted on facebook. JT

Thanks jt, you may be able to answer this question, have playcrafts really changed their toon design since say 2000-2012 or so? Or are they all pretty much the same boat?

The base toons and their patented fins are pretty much the same. I saw the boat someone posted on here a while back that had twin 400r motors on it and larger toons so they added what was basically a stepped hull to the back of the toons to make up for the speed lost by going to the bigger, heavier toons. Keep in mind that some of these boats are heavy boats. For example, a JC in the size you want with a 350 magnum won't even think about touching 50 but it will have a great rider. The playcrafts are heavy boats too and I think you might need to get into at least a 350 magnum or 454 inboard to do what you want to do. An outboard is typically a little bit faster when you compare hp to hp but both have their advantages/disadvantages. I prefer an inboard but sometimes on toons they can be even harder to work on than in a v hull.

There are so many different toon hulls and lifting strake designs today it's amazing. They are not the same. The reason why the 400R boat has taller bigger toons is to keep the back of the boat up at idle. The weight of dual Verado's caused that. The steps were added to increase the hull speed. These boats are not heavy because of the way they are built. Xtremes are almost 28' long and only weight 2750lbs.

[mpilot]

The base toons and their patented fins are pretty much the same. I saw the boat someone posted on here a while back that had twin 400r motors on it and larger toons so they added what was basically a stepped hull to the back of the toons to make up for the speed lost by going to the bigger, heavier toons. Keep in mind that some of these boats are heavy boats. For example, a JC in the size you want with a 350 magnum won't even think about touching 50 but it will have a great rider. The playcrafts are heavy boats too and I think you might need to get into at least a 350 magnum or 454 inboard to do what you want to do. An outboard is typically a little bit faster when you compare hp to hp but both have their advantages/disadvantages. I prefer an inboard but sometimes on toons they can be even harder to work on than in a v hull.

There are so many different toon hulls and lifting strake designs today it's amazing. They are not the same. The reason why the 400R boat has taller bigger toons is to keep the back of the boat up at idle. The weight of dual Verado's caused that. The steps were added to increase the hull speed. These boats are not heavy because of the way they are built. Xtremes are almost 28' long and only weight 2750lbs.

I meant that their patented race r fins are the same as they have been since the patented them and they have been using that U toon with the pointed nose that looks sort of like the nose of a Fountain since I can remember. I did not mean they were the same as other manufacturer's fins. Everyone does them different and everyone's seem to work pretty well for their application.

The weight you quoted was for the stock 24 inch toons not the upgraded (I believe 27") on this boat, without the dual gas tanks which I assume it has(If not, at least a 100 gallon single most likely), and also without the dual transom setup. The dealer that has this boat told me while at his booth in February that the larger toons added a fair amount of weight that would slow it down a bit and they added the steps to the hull because it basically washed out that loss as they believed they would gain it all back. This boat also has 1400lbs of motor hanging off the back, so like I said...it's a fairly heavy boat when all is said and done.

There are some twin 300 boats out there that run in the mid to high 60's I've seen tested out at a weight of over 5500lbs and were a few feet longer. If you added an extra 33% HP and took off the 1000lbs of weight from these boats (using your numbers) they would easily run with this playcraft all day. The guy on the lake that has the Playcraft with the twin 300 Verados runs mid 70's so it doesn't look like the bigger motors picked up a ton of speed on that one. With all of that said those other brand boats won't be able to run with this playcraft because I believe it is heavier than your quoted from base model specs 2750lbs.

I think you sell the boats or at least know a lot about them. I also think you took my post as an insult to them which it was not in any way. I'd love to have the money to get my hands on one with the twin stroker motors in it one day. In fact, my wife hate's the idea but knows that I want one of their pontoons and one day will hopefully have one with at least a big block in it.

EDIT TO ADD: Sorry, they are actually 30" foam filled pontoons, and it rides on a triple axle trailer, so I am nearly 100% positive it's heavier than your total weight of 4086lbs dry (2750 in boat, 668lbs each in motors).

[Toonnut86]

Has anyone done any playing with jackplates ect on a single Playcraft powertoon 26-2700? Just curious, seems like they are having good luck on the Daytona with them.

[Toonnut86]

I'm on my 3rd Tritoon with big HP. First Manitou with 250 Etec, 10" hydraulic jackplate and some hull messaging went from 48 stock to 60plus. 2nd, the Premier, stock 225 with a Simons ECU for 310 hp, (318 on the dyno) and now my 2016 Manitou with 300 Yamaha. I love them all! So many different manufacturers and options out there mow days. I HIGHLY recommend JT's! Awesome boat! Also, Brad Rowland is selling his world record setting Southbay! He took off the triple 300's and has twin 225's on it, now. If interested, I can hook you up with him!

Did you install that ecu and then get it Dyno'd locally? Just curious, I'm finding decent deals on playcrafts with Suzuki 250's ect as opposed to the 300's