Simmon motorsports ECM upgrade on a 90HP four stroke review
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Re: Simmon motorsports ECM upgrade on a 90HP four stroke review
I am only turning 5100 with the 15p, I am heavier and longer than you. Same basic motor. Probably would work better for you. I dropped to a 14 pitch
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crookedlaker
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Re: Simmon motorsports ECM upgrade on a 90HP four stroke review
I would probably leave the height as it is and look at the prop
going down 1 " pitch may not be enough RPMs
I would look at a 15 pitch
call Ken at Prop Gods They are located in Sarasota FL
he knows props, call him and get his advice. I think that he will allow you to
try props and exchange them for a small fee.
Keep at it, there is more speed there
Mike
going down 1 " pitch may not be enough RPMs
I would look at a 15 pitch
call Ken at Prop Gods They are located in Sarasota FL
he knows props, call him and get his advice. I think that he will allow you to
try props and exchange them for a small fee.
Keep at it, there is more speed there
Mike
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Re: Simmon motorsports ECM upgrade on a 90HP four stroke review
Thanks, I'll give him a shout this morning.crookedlaker wrote:I would probably leave the height as it is and look at the prop
going down 1 " pitch may not be enough RPMs
I would look at a 15 pitch
call Ken at Prop Gods They are located in Sarasota FL
he knows props, call him and get his advice. I think that he will allow you to
try props and exchange them for a small fee.
Keep at it, there is more speed there
Mike
Mike
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Re: Simmon motorsports ECM upgrade on a 90HP four stroke review
Xscash-Sent you a PM
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Re: Simmon motorsports ECM upgrade on a 90HP four stroke review
Update:
So after I had the motor raised along with the mediocre results, XSCASH offered to sell me an Enertia 15x15P prop, current prop is 15x17P.
Initially I was leery as I'm sure he was. I made contact with him and he offered to send the prop for the initial shipping cost and send the remainder when I received it. It was shipped out on Friday and I received it yesterday as described.
I will be installing it today and testing it on Thursday.
Transaction went smooth and I wanted to publicly give a SHOUT OUT to XSCASH, AKA Rick. Thanks Bro!!
Mike
So after I had the motor raised along with the mediocre results, XSCASH offered to sell me an Enertia 15x15P prop, current prop is 15x17P.
Initially I was leery as I'm sure he was. I made contact with him and he offered to send the prop for the initial shipping cost and send the remainder when I received it. It was shipped out on Friday and I received it yesterday as described.
I will be installing it today and testing it on Thursday.
Transaction went smooth and I wanted to publicly give a SHOUT OUT to XSCASH, AKA Rick. Thanks Bro!!
Mike
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2015 Mercury 90hp (Simon Motorsports tuned )Command Thrust FourStroke[b] not worth the coin
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Re: Simmon motorsports ECM upgrade on a 90HP four stroke review
mzodarg wrote:Update:
So after I had the motor raised along with the mediocre results, XSCASH offered to sell me an Enertia 15x15P prop, current prop is 15x17P.
Initially I was leery as I'm sure he was. I made contact with him and he offered to send the prop for the initial shipping cost and send the remainder when I received it. It was shipped out on Friday and I received it yesterday as described.
I will be installing it today and testing it on Thursday.
Transaction went smooth and I wanted to publicly give a SHOUT OUT to XSCASH, AKA Rick. Thanks Bro!!
Mike
I've met some of the most honest and friendly people on forums such as this....
T CRO
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Re: Simmon motorsports ECM upgrade on a 90HP four stroke review
Yep! I would never do some of the things I have done, business wise, with non boaters! Like I always say, "In boaters, I trust!"teecro wrote: I've met some of the most honest and friendly people on forums such as this....
I hope that prop works for you, Mike!
I have several props I'll be selling, but they are all LH rotation, new Manitou's Yammie is RH. Last count I had was 7...
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Re: Simmon motorsports ECM upgrade on a 90HP four stroke review
Your welcome pal, I hope you get what you need from it!mzodarg wrote:Update:
So after I had the motor raised along with the mediocre results, XSCASH offered to sell me an Enertia 15x15P prop, current prop is 15x17P.
Initially I was leery as I'm sure he was. I made contact with him and he offered to send the prop for the initial shipping cost and send the remainder when I received it. It was shipped out on Friday and I received it yesterday as described.
I will be installing it today and testing it on Thursday.
Transaction went smooth and I wanted to publicly give a SHOUT OUT to XSCASH, AKA Rick. Thanks Bro!!
Mike
Post up the results when you test it out.
Rick
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Re: Simmon motorsports ECM upgrade on a 90HP four stroke review
Update:
Took the pontoon to the lake today and tested the enertia 15x15 prop. There was good news and bad news.
The mercury spun the prop at 6000 rpms, that's the good news. The bad news is I lost 5 MPH, max speed at WOT was 25mph. I went back to the dock and reinstalled the OEM Prop (15x17P) and she hit 30 at 5400 rpms. Came out of the hole a lot better then the enertia and overall a better performance.
Went from 19% slip, OEM to 30%, Enertia.
I'm at a loss and quite frankly I'm ready to just accept the 5400 rpms, cut my losses and be done with chasing performance.
I'll guess with you
Took the pontoon to the lake today and tested the enertia 15x15 prop. There was good news and bad news.
The mercury spun the prop at 6000 rpms, that's the good news. The bad news is I lost 5 MPH, max speed at WOT was 25mph. I went back to the dock and reinstalled the OEM Prop (15x17P) and she hit 30 at 5400 rpms. Came out of the hole a lot better then the enertia and overall a better performance.
Went from 19% slip, OEM to 30%, Enertia.
I'm at a loss and quite frankly I'm ready to just accept the 5400 rpms, cut my losses and be done with chasing performance.
I'll guess with you
Last edited by mzodarg on Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:05 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Simmon motorsports ECM upgrade on a 90HP four stroke review
Only tidit I'll throw in the tank is my 75 made better speed with a 3B-14x12P than it did with either the 3B-14x13P or the 3B-14x11P as well as the 4B-13.8x11P or 4B-13.8x13P props I tried... That turns out to be the same pitch another owner with the same rig and HP found, only diff at this point is he has extra cupping and he said he was doing 28 and I'm knocking on 28 by .2 MPH....mzodarg wrote:... I'm at a loss and quite frankly I'm ready to just accept the 5400 rpms, cut my losses and be done with chasing performance.
So your sweet-spot prop might be a 16" Pitch perhaps with extra cupping (?) ...
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Re: Simmon motorsports ECM upgrade on a 90HP four stroke review
Your probably right but like I said early, I'm done chasing performance on a barge. I'll leave it alone and spend $$ on other things.teecro wrote:Only tidit I'll throw in the tank is my 75 made better speed with a 3B-14x12P than it did with either the 3B-14x13P or the 3B-14x11P as well as the 4B-13.8x11P or 4B-13.8x13P props I tried... That turns out to be the same pitch another owner with the same rig and HP found, only diff at this point is he has extra cupping and he said he was doing 28 and I'm knocking on 28 by .2 MPH....mzodarg wrote:... I'm at a loss and quite frankly I'm ready to just accept the 5400 rpms, cut my losses and be done with chasing performance.
So your sweet-spot prop might be a 16" Pitch perhaps with extra cupping (?) ...
I am hitting 5400 rpms at 3/4 throttle and the same at WOT (on the OEM prop), guess I just won't go full throttle......
Last edited by mzodarg on Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:00 am, edited 1 time in total.
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crookedlaker
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Re: Simmon motorsports ECM upgrade on a 90HP four stroke review
Give Ken at Prop Gods a call
will not cost you but a phone call
Maybe you need to raise the motor one more hole
Good luck
will not cost you but a phone call
Maybe you need to raise the motor one more hole
Good luck
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2014 Mercury 90 four stroke (120 HP via Simon Motorsports) Sold!!
Re: Simmon motorsports ECM upgrade on a 90HP four stroke review
Well while it was not free you have gained about 4 MPH since being Simonized right?mzodarg wrote:... Your probably right but like I said early, I'm done chasing performance on a barge. I'll leave it alone and spend $$ on other things.
I am hitting 5400 rpms at 3/4 throttle and the same at WOT (on the OEM prop), guess I just won't go full throttle......
T CRO
2017 Berkshire CTS 24 RFX with Yamaha F150/Simomized 200
2015 Caravelle 16 EBo with Mercury 90
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2015 Caravelle 16 EBo with Mercury 90
Re: Simmon motorsports ECM upgrade on a 90HP four stroke review
WOW, I'm sorry pal. I would have expected a much better result from that prop.mzodarg wrote:Update:
Took the pontoon to the lake today and tested the enertia 15x15 prop. There was good news and bad news.
The mercury spun the prop at 6000 rpms, that's the good news. The bad news is I lost 5 MPH, max speed at WOT was 25mph. I went back to the dock and reinstalled the OEM Prop (15x17P) and she hit 30 at 5400 rpms. Came out of the hole a lot better then the enertia and overall a better performance.
Went from 19% slip, OEM to 30%, Enertia.
I'm at a loss and quite frankly I'm ready to just accept the 5400 rpms, cut my losses and be done with chasing performance.
I'll guess with you
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Previous; 2011 Sun Tracker Party Barge 21 w/60HP Merc[/color]
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Re: Simmon motorsports ECM upgrade on a 90HP four stroke review
Great pointteecro wrote:Well while it was not free you have gained about 4 MPH since being Simonized right?mzodarg wrote:... Your probably right but like I said early, I'm done chasing performance on a barge. I'll leave it alone and spend $$ on other things.
I am hitting 5400 rpms at 3/4 throttle and the same at WOT (on the OEM prop), guess I just won't go full throttle......
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2015 Mercury 90hp (Simon Motorsports tuned )Command Thrust FourStroke[b] not worth the coin
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